<p>I need some help based on NYU requirements, admissions, and how to get high SAT scores. Anyone out there? I am going into my junior year of high school.</p>
<p>Hey, I’m an Undergrad Pre-Med and Social & Cultural Analysis major at NYU.</p>
<p>I can try to help… Feel free to message me.</p>
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<p>Okay so I don’t know if you know my grades story heres a summary. I’m an Honors an AP student. Freshmen year I failed Geometry. Sophomore year everyone cheated in my classes and me being honest didn’t cheat and I regret it. I did horrible in the classes that I didn’t cheat in because the teachers were so bad! I Failed first semester Chem, D first semester AP World History, and D Spanish2. Second semester I raised the D in AP World History to a C, raised the F in honors chemistry to a B, and Spanish2 slipped to a Fail. In making up the Ds and Fs this summer and I’m taking 3 APs next year. AP US History, AP English, AP Environmental Science, Honors Precal, Journalism, and Spanish2 again. How can I explain to NYU my situation and how can I increase my chances of admission?</p>
<p>No offense but NYU wont take those excuses. You should really look at other options with that many Fs and Ds.</p>
<p>But I have a valid reason, I didn’t cheat, I didn’t do what everyone else did</p>
<p>Lol, what?? Not cheating is hardly a valid reason, it’s what’s expected of you. The majority of NYU applicants get great grades, without cheating, so why should they take you with that reasoning? At least come up with a better excuse, because “I didn’t cheat like everyone else” is not going to fly.</p>
<p>Really? Good citizenship doesn’t count for anything? Everyone should be like you and cheat? Good citizenship counts for a lot in my opinion. Ever heard of humanity? Does it fall under your vocabulary? Want me to define it for you?</p>
<p>Those of us who attend NYU predominantly, to the best of my knowledge, did not cheat. We all achieved a mix of A’s and B’s without cheating. </p>
<p>The excuse “I didn’t cheat and therefore did poorly” will not be acceptable to NYU adcoms, because they expect good to excellent grades of their students. We all had bad teachers in high school as well, but we still managed to get good to excellent grades.</p>
<p>My teachers were bad and I didn’t cheat like everyone else and therefore did poorly is an excuse, not a valid reason for not doing well. </p>
<p>With that many C’s, D’s, and F’s, NYU simply will not take you. The average GPA is around 3.7.</p>
<p>You asked for people’s opinion and then, when they gave it to, responded very sharply and harshly. It’s not our fault that we’re merely telling you the matters-of-fact and that you do not like them.</p>
<p>It’s one person who had a harsh response. I wasnt trying to be harsh I just pointed out the fact that humanity is just as important. I didnt have a splendid year however I tried extremely hard , I stayed up til 2am almost everyday and I worked my butt off. I didn’t sob about my grades I workedddddd, I trieddd, and I still am trying. I still have Junior year left. Cheating is what went around in my classes and the idea of me not cheating and working hard and actually learning something should count for something right? I’m making up those grades though I shouldn’t be because I studied and did my part where everyone else didn’t do their part. If people were not to cheat they would’ve had the same results as me . Im not trying to sound harsh I’m just trying to figure out why being honest and working hard is such a crime. Trust me I don’t wanna sound vain but I’m a hard working dedicated student but this year I learned that cheating is the solution to everything.</p>
<p>The problem with your logic is that, while honesty and hard work are invaluable, there are those who are very hardworking and honest people who succeed without cheating, despite obstacles such as bad teachers and hard classes. These people make up the majority of NYU’s applicants. And I would think that a student who is honest, hardworking, AND successful would appeal the most to any college. </p>
<p>It’s great that you are such a hard worker. The thing is that colleges EXPECT people not to cheat and STILL do well. It’s not something that makes you stand out as a super honest saint. I’m sorry to sound harsh, but I’m just trying to understand your reasoning. Why on earth should NYU be impressed by the fact that you did not cheat? Lots of people don’t cheat and just because you were in the minority in your situation in doesn’t make you any better than those that are honest and successful. </p>
<p>How will it affect your chances? I don’t know, nobody does. Apply and find out. But we’re just telling you that by listing “Everyone else cheated but I didn’t which is why I didn’t succeed” as an explanation is not going to help your chances.</p>
<p>I’m aware. Do you attend NYU? So you’re saying that if I do well next year it won’t make a difference? I worked very hard and I did do better 2nd semester. I think I succeeded I jumped from a FAIL in honors Chemistry to a B+. Guess I’ll have to let go of my dream.</p>
<p>You would need an average GPA for your junior year of as close to 4.0 as possible, otherwise NYU just isn’t a realistic option. The average cumulative GPA is 3.6/3.7. Your GPA, Without the biggest upward trend in history, will just not impress the adcoms at NYU. Even with an excellent GPA (I.e. 4.0 next year) coupled with a 2,200 SAT, your chances would still be bleak.</p>
<p>Well, I give up. Community college probably won’t get me anywhere either. I don’t care about school anymore.</p>
<p>Welp, it’s your choice to have that kind of attitude. Obviously, you <em>want</em> to hear from us, “good job on not cheating! You’re such a hard worker; keep working as hard as you have been and the sky’s the limit!” But imo, if you’re old enough to be thinking about college, you’re on your way to being an adult and a lot of the time, that outside encouragement isn’t going to be there. It has to come from yourself internally, otherwise you won’t ever find motivation to get through anything. </p>
<p>Look, it’s clear that you are a hard worker and extremely ambitious. Will you get into NYU? Who knows? Your grades are what they are. Apply and find out! I think with good SAT scores you could be considered for LSP, which, from what I know, takes candidates with weaker stats but shows a lot of potential and your work ethic certainly shows that. But, let me assure you, that your intelligence or self-worth is by far not determined by what college you may or may not get into. </p>
<p>What is really off-putting to me, is not your ambition or your drive. It’s the holier-than-thou attitude that shows you think you’re better than your peers because you decided not to cheat and they did. I don’t think that what your peers did is really any of your concern and you should just worry about yourself. Trying to make yourself look better than others is a sign of immaturity, and comes across as excessively pious and pretentious. Now, you may not feel this way at all; it’s just what I gather from reading your posts and I apologize if I’m mistaken. You have your own standards and that’s all anyone can ask of you.</p>
<p>Wow, okay you have completely misunderstood me. I don’t think I’m better than everyone else . I worked hard and got the grades that were possible without cheating. Obviously I’m mature enough to handle the truth , if I weren’t then I wouldn’t be asking about college advice and I wouldn’t be thinking about college. I certainly do not think I’m better than peers and I am not on this site for sympathy. I like to work for and achieve my goals and my peers that cheated are my concern. If they all do well and I don’t do well in the same class then it shows that I am incapable where in reality that’s not the case at all. Now do you understand how it affects me? As I stated before I don’t think I’m better than everyone else especially because I didn’t cheat. I asked for advice that can help me fix some of my issues and display the type of person I am not judgemental opinions. I am aware of my imperfections , I’m not narcissistic nor am I here to dispute.</p>
<p>I still fail to understand how their cheating makes you do poorly. If you grasped the content being taught, you would do well; if not, you would not. Whether or not your peers cheat plays no role in how well you perform in a class… Unless somehow your high school grades on a curve and absolutely everyone else in your entire high school cheats and does well on everything? This all just seems very improbable.</p>
<p>That’s just it. No one understood the concept so they resulted in cheating . I didn’t understand it either but I tried to. It’s not every class it was just those 2 ( science and history ) specific classes. I was pretty stunned to see them cheat . I gave a whole explanation as to how it all affects me on my previous post, I don’t know if you comprehended it correctly though .</p>
<p>Here’s the deal man. It’s a dog eat dog world. Yes, cheating is wrong and your classmates all should be ashamed of themselves. And yes, it’s not fair that you tried to learn and ended up getting the grade you deserved. However, I highly recommend you do NOT try and convey any of this information to ANY school you apply to.
Bottom line is, people in this world don’t play by the rules. I know people in my school who lied about ECs which ended up getting them scholarships. But, we as honest people must overcome those who cheat because in the end, honesty always wins. While it’s a shame that your grades most likely won’t get you into NYU, there’s nothing stopping you from going to a school that fits your academics and you doing extremely well at that school. All those kids who cheated will go to schools that they don’t deserve to be in, and it will catch up to them eventually.</p>
<p>. . . Thank you!! Finally ! You understood my point and I totally agree with you but I really wish I could get into NYU. If I had a little bit of hope I would use it to my full advantage . Unfortunately there is none . I appreciate your honesty though, thank you =)</p>
<p>Chewbacci, parent here of NYU grad. You are getting good advice. there is no question that you are a hardworking person, but you need to let go of what your classmates did and start working on making your NYU application standout. NYU will not care anything about your peers or what they did. Work on improving your grades, do some volunteer work, internships, etc. go ahead and apply, you never know what will happen, but be aware, NYU is numbers driven with scores and grades, so make yourself standout. But by all means do not write your essay on your classmates cheating and you were left in the dust. That simply will not fly.</p>