@OHMomof2 As it should be.
@Ynotgo Personally I believe that anyone can “afford” their EFC, its more a question of priorities and if they think its “worth it”. In the doughnut EFC is right around 25% of gross income for most schools.
Respectfully and totally disagree with @CU123. Having had two sons apply to college and having gotten a total of 26 financial aid packages, I can assure you that the numbers were not at all consistent with net price calculators for many of them. We qualify for a lot of aid, and there was a difference of up to 22K at schools that “meet 100% need”. It can indeed be very complicated for a variety of reasons which are too long to go into here.
@sbjdorlo I found my DD FA packages to be close but then she only applied to nine, and complicating factors were not an issue for us.
@Chembiodad: “all seems consistent with what Swarthmore and Williams reported - 50-60% URM and 1st Gen, add 8-10% legacy and 10-15% sudent-athletes and the spots remaining is pretty thin.”
Note that there would be overlap between those groups.
^ I would assume the URM and 1st Gen were lumped together in the same category, so there’s your overlap. The overlap between legacy and student-athletes would be marginal, because nowhere close to the majority of legacies are student-athletes, and nowhere close to the majority of student-athletes are legacies. At that point, you’re just splitting hairs debating the overlap.
For what it’s worth I graduated from Bates in the early 90s and when I was in high school of the CBB schools, Bowdoin was the toughest to get into followed by Bates and then Colby. One woman in my class of 320 got into Bowdoin and she was in the top 10 people in my class. I was #30 and got into Bates and waitlisted at Bowdoin and didn’t even apply to Colby. Two other guys in my class who were ranked in the high 20s/low 30s got into Bates too and two women who were ranked in the 50s got into Colby.
Also, college level courses and AP/Honors courses were weighted the same in my high school and I took all Honors and APs as did the two guys who went to Bates with me so we probably would have been ranked even higher if our courses had been given greater weight. We all went to a very good public school and all three of us have been very successful since graduating from Bates. I’ve been a journalist and professor and one of the guys runs a law firm and the other has been extremely successful running his own commercial real estate company. So we’ve all done fine.
Maybe things have changed with the three schools since then, but this is just my personal perspective of them and personally, I don’t think you’ll go wrong with any of the three. I loved Bates and felt like I got a terrific education and I’m still close to many of the people I met there. It’s an extremely friendly and supportive school.
I can also tell you that Bates has been protesting the US News & World report rankings since I went there and as a result, the organization isn’t big fans of the school. For years, the college didn’t even submit information because they didn’t feel like the methods used by US News were accurate.
@K9: And that’s why I prefer to tier by alumni achievements rather than rankings like USNews that are easily gamed:
Bowdoin comes out an Ivy-equivalent.
Bates ends up in the “good schools” tier with JHU, Davidson, and W&M.
Colby doesn’t make it.
Measuring by top feeders:
https://www.■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■/blog/category/infographics/
Bowdoin is in the top 20 for PhDs overall, PhD history, PhD bio
Bates is in the top 20 for elite MBA programs
Colby is in the top 20 for PhD bio
Still no data on these LACs?
Amherst
Bates
Bryn Mawr
Colgate
Davidson
Grinnell
Oberlin
Smith
U of Richmond
Washington & Lee
No, I couldn’t find anything about those schools, @odannyboySF.
But there were some more schools giving more details on admissions, including yield figures.
Bowdoin yield 52% http://community.bowdoin.edu/news/2017/05/record-setting-number-of-applicants-diverse-and-aided-students-for-class-of-2021/
Georgetown yield 49% http://www.thehoya.com/half-of-admitted-students-to-enter-class-of-2021/
Georgetown also had an article about legacy admissions: http://www.thehoya.com/legacy-students-twice-as-likely-to-be-admitted/
Alumni achievement and satisfaction are both important components.
Bates also has 19 Fulbright Scholars this year and one of the best debate teams in the world. The students I met there were not only very bright but also terrific people who cared about the right things in life. Many students wanted to use their smarts to make the world a better place, which to me, is something parents should hope their kids aspire to especially in todays’ world.
That being said, I don’t think you could go wrong with Bates, Colby or Bowdoin. You will get a top tier education at all three places and it becomes more about whether you feel like it’s the right place for you. My sister went to Bowdoin and liked it, I went to Bates and loved it (you’ll find a lot of passionate Batesies out there!). The fit was perfect for me.
Hope this helps.
Hi guys. So I received my financial aid package today from George Mason .It says that i gotta pay 53,000 dollars per year. I got a scholarship totaling 19,620 dollars that lowers it down to 33,454$. And also this college qualified me as an outstate resident. Ive been living in Virginia for the past 2 years now and idk y they qualified me as an out of state resident. Maybe it’s because my dad pays his taxes in New York? btw so yeh for the expenses it says that i gotta pay 12,028$ for off campus room and board whereas I already live with my mum in our leased apartment. So can I actually deduct this cost from my tuition bringing it down to like 21,000$?
-Thanks
@hamstargaming you should start a new thread about this in the financial aid forum.
^ Let’s not let this thread derail any more than it has tended to.
Carleton College’s most up-to-date admissions stats (as of May 19th) are out for its Class of 2021: A 20.7 percent acceptance rate, a 39 percent yield rate, with 535 students enrolling this fall. The college’s fall target enrollment was for 525 students. They anticipate losing perhaps 10 of those enrollees to “summer melt,” after which they might take students off the wait-list to ensure a freshman class of 525 students.
See the following link to the ‘Carletonian’ newspaper article: https://apps.carleton.edu/carletonian/?story_id=1579258&issue_id=1579256
spayurpets how did you find the statistics for Pitzer ED and Barnard ED?
The thread has not been updated for a while…it seems like this is over…I will miss this. It was a very exciting year… :((
^ that’s because spayurpets is biased. Only cares about top 20 liberal arts and IVY league accetpance rates.
There are still a few that haven’t reported, @Cariño but I’m sure they’ll come in over the summer.
@NASA2014 The colleges that aren’t on spayurpets’ list tend to be more open with their admissions rates and statistics, because those rates are less subject to the significant annual changes in admissions rates that the top 20 colleges have.
And it gets a little tedious to find and type out info for all those colleges. There are over 60 colleges on the aggregated list on this thread.
I’d also note that spayurpets is only “biased” because CC is where a lot of elite-aiming kids like to hang out, and this list serves a lot of the community well. Obviously it is simply not possible to add every college in the US and Canada.
There’s no “bias” about it. Just utility.