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<p>I think I should step in to help SDG a bit about this argument.</p>

<p>HKUST IS indeed better than HKU in its EMBA program at the moment- and it is consistently ranked the top 5 in the past years. However, HKU has just also launched its EMBA program, where there will be rankings next year (since you have to wait for a year before it gets ranked). At this moment, it can be argued that UST does have better EMBA program. HOWEVER - it is wrong is generalise that the faculty teaching EMBA teaches undergraduate, because THAT IS NOT THE CASE. HKUST’s BBA has a TA system and some of the courses are not even taught by professors (just a portion). Also, the staff for EMBA (avg 7-10 years working exp) usually do research and more important things etc, hence another point to support the fact that they do not teach UG. Another point - for undergraduate courses, HKU’s business courses ARE more selective that HKUST, everyone knows that, published statistics on their website and on newspaper articles can substantiate this point. FYI, the business program I am attending in HKU - IBGM requires a 40 pts condition whereas the equivalent in UST only requires 36 pts - this remains true for majority of the other applicants. All your rankings are only for graduate school - not undergraduate.</p>

<p>Also for your SWEEPING generalisation Jason
“what you do is find a ranking for that deparment and i will guarantee you that if that department is present at hkust and hku, 90% or higher of the time hkust will be higher.”</p>

<p>Let’s look at a quite renown ranking table which is published by QS Top 200 Asian Universities 2009 about 3-4 weeks ago
<a href=“http://www.topuniversities.com/worlduniversityrankings/asianuniversityrankings/asian_university_rankings_top_200_universities/[/url]”>http://www.topuniversities.com/worlduniversityrankings/asianuniversityrankings/asian_university_rankings_top_200_universities/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>This is for the overall ranking: For how they do it : (<a href=“http://www.topuniversities.com/worlduniversityrankings/asianuniversityrankings/indicators00/simple_overview/[/url]”>http://www.topuniversities.com/worlduniversityrankings/asianuniversityrankings/indicators00/simple_overview/&lt;/a&gt;)</p>

<p>2009 rank School Name Country
Source: QS Quacquarelli Symonds (<a href=“http://www.qs.com%5B/url%5D”>www.qs.com</a>)
Copyright © 2004-2009 QS Quacquarelli Symonds Ltd.</p>

<p>1 University of HONG KONG Hong Kong
2 The CHINESE University of Hong Kong Hong Kong
3 University of TOKYO Japan
4 HONG KONG University of Science and Tech… Hong Kong
5 KYOTO University Japan
6 OSAKA University Japan
7 KAIST - Korea Advanced Institute of Scie… Korea, South
8 SEOUL National University Korea, South
9 TOKYO Institute of Technology Japan
10= National University of Singapore (NUS) Singapore
10= PEKING University China</p>

<p>(HKU)Overall Ranking - HKU - 1st ; HKUST 4th</p>

<p>The five major areas of academia
(HKU) Life Sciences & Bio Medicine: HKU - 6th ; HKUST - 11th
(HKU) Arts and Humanities: HKU - 5th ; HKUST - 47th
(HKUST) Natural Sciences: HKU - 17th ; HKUST - 11th
(HKU) Social Sciences: HKU - 6th ; HKUST - 16th
(HKUST) IT & Engineering: HKU - 17th ; HKUST - 6th</p>

<p>I think you should really check your facts before you become a bit too much.
I don’t think that suggests that its “90% of the time”</p>

<p>Both are excellent institutions in my view - in their own ways - but I just dislike people who make sweeping generalizations and being adamant in insisting one school is better than other - especially because of factual (admittedly rankings themselves are a bit biased- but I guess its as close as it gets) inaccuracy.</p>

<p>And that just took me 20 minutes of my sleep to read and reply.</p>

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<p>Clarify another point for my post above:
“Also, the staff for EMBA (avg 7-10 years working exp) usually do research and more important things etc”</p>

<p>the (avg 7-10 years working exp) bit refers to an average admitted applicant to the course. My point is that the professors are significantly more experienced and knowledgeable and that not all engage in UG teaching since it could be a ‘waste’ - if you know what i mean - and are better off doing research etc.</p>

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<p>can sumone reply to my previous posts,pls</p>

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<p>It is impossible to differ. One will tell you this. One will tell you that.
Be bold and take your own step without the influence of others. </p>

<p>@Niksy : why are you so into money ? Passion my friend passion :smiley:
why do you even bother thinking about money now at UG when
the salary bracket really only depends on you at the end?
And yes , HKUST HKU CUHK PolytechnicUHK & CItyUHK are all
world recognised.</p>

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<p>this is becoz i am gettin admission in quite known and good colleges in my own country ,i cud not make it to the best one, so I decided To try again next year.
If i leave my own country and study in HK i want the salary shud be gud otherwise wats the point .The best institute in my country is the IIT and its quite tough to get in them.But hopefully i will get into them next year But if i go to hk then its not possible for me to study for next year .
U understand now, why i am into money thing coz salary are excellent in the IIT so i want to enquire about HKUSt,though HKUSt is placed much higher in ranking than IIT</p>

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<p>IIT in india? I heard of it but hkust is better though. It is not as simple as you think to work in hk. We need to learn cantonese. And the tuition fees for a MBA in hkust is incredibly expensive. And there is 1 sore point , engineering students are not allowed to pursue MBA in hkust , i read that somewhere. That is because they want engineering students to concentrate on their engineering side instead of mixing it with business. The salary is higher than other countries but you must keep in mind that living expenses are also incredibly steep , so you spend more too. Which means , u enjoy the same life although you get a higher pay. I might be wrong but that was my initial perception.</p>

<p>The fresh grad EE student student can command averagely from 12-14kHK$ basic salary with 24k HK$ being the maximum… You can see from their website , they provide all this data for public. I am not sure about CompScience.</p>

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<p>i understand tution fee is high but they also give scholarship.
Well i dont think so they can stop engineering students from doing MBA ,its their ownchoice wat dey wanna do.</p>

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<p>Is HKU engineering that bad?
I now want to study in HKU instead of HKUST because HKU seems to have more diversity and more entertaining life in the city…
I too had been sure that I would go to HKUST, but come to think of it, would undergraduate program vary that much?</p>

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<p>‘Both are excellent institutions in my view - in their own ways - but I just dislike people who make sweeping generalizations and being adamant in insisting one school is better than other - especially because of factual (admittedly rankings themselves are a bit biased- but I guess its as close as it gets) inaccuracy.’</p>

<p>No offense, everyone. I agree with The Grand in his statement above. Is that so important to prove which university is better? We should be proud of the university we will be attending, but not by criticising and disapproving the others, which will only bring pointless, never ending arguements and quarrels. Such self-consciousness are the main reason of countless wars and disputes in the past and present, are we still yet to learn? We are predestined to meet here in College Confidential and we should cherish everyone we meet here. We should respect one another by not using offending and provoking statements. So, I hope, we will be having more constructive discussions, but more arguments regarding whose university is better.</p>

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<p>Oh… I don’t recall my last visit had a huge polemic going on here. Michelleger, the inaugurator of this thread, is probably thinking: “What on earth have I started?”</p>

<p>Anyway, I am curious as to why nobody chooses the pure science - Biology, Chemistry, Physics or Mathematics. I mean other than your chosen subjects being relevant to the world and realistic. You all seem to be keen on engineering and business?</p>

<p>@SAMAD: Ahem, statistics are private! But, alright, I got AAB for the A/H2 lv and ADB for the AS/H1 lv (D for wretched General Paper!!). Oh and I forgot to mention that I did submit my O level as well - 6A1s and 2B3s.</p>

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<p>nicky- i chose pure science! i was also a little overwhelmed that nearly everyone is either a business or engineering major! i actually kind of wished i could switch to IBGM, haha. in my school we have a bunch of ppl going to school for engineering as well.</p>

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<p>people pls help me,
i have to take a decision , shud i go to hkust or try for IIT in india next year .pls help me.
Do i have to learn chinese to work in hk. can i do mba from the same university.
Are there more of chinese people or people from all round the world.
Thanks</p>

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<p>@niksy: That is really on your call. If you feel that you can get into IIT then go ahead and wait to apply next year - again you have balance this with the fact that you may not get in - meaning that you believe that a decision is worth the wait even if you did not get in. If you cannot accept that, perhaps you should play safer and go to UST.</p>

<p>Do i have to learn chinese to work in hk.: No, many foreigners who play important roles in multinationals do so ithout knowing Cantonese/Chinese - Many do acquire some language skills over the years, however.</p>

<p>Can i do mba from the same university: Yes, you may, even for UST. </p>

<p>Are there more of chinese people or people from all round the world.: This is a silly question. I don’t think I want to answer it.</p>

<p>In my opinion, UST will be a safer option for you specifically.</p>

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<p>well thanks for ur reply.
well ya there is no surity that i will get into IIT.
I may not even get this next year.
But if UST is above in ranking than IIT then why do u say that i can try again.
IIT in india is the ultimate.
But not in the world . what do u think lets take usa wat will prefer HKUST OR IIT.
I have not got any info abt scholarship.
I have asked them abt it.
lets see</p>

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<p>@dqbonafide: How did your interview go with HKU? Did my post help?? :D</p>

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<p>@niksy : I think you got me wrong. Tuition fees are real cheap in hong kong.
Its the living expenses which is abit tiny tad higher than other places.
I was certain i read about the inability of engineering students to take MBA
in hkust but I might be wrong because I couldn’t find the article anymore
on their website. Scholarships are supposed to be announced with your admission offer,
at least thats what happened for me.
add : Oh I am sorry , the special programme for MSc & MBA are no longer available. you can take BEng and
MBA after that</p>

<p>@flibb : It was pretty short. The interviewers seemed like they were in a rush.
All the basic questions with an extra one that “How long did you study a day”
I said 2hours. They say when you come to hk , you have to self-study for
4-5 hours. I am like “Okaaayyyy…”</p>

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<p>Personally after streaming throught HKU & HKUST engineering website , I find their UG programme is somewhat nearly the same , except that hkust allows students to study deeper through their honors research track by touching on postgraduate knowledge. And after UG , the MSc in engineering for HKUST is indeed stronger with way more specialisations in new areas and latest technology than HKU. And hkust engineering has 100% PhD faculty.
They never mentioned about TA system .So do they exist for engineering in hkust?</p>

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<p>thanks for ur reply ,well for international students tution fees is also not low its abt 80000dollars +books+other things.</p>

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<p>wow you’re choosing HKU over Warwick? </p>

<p>im in such a dilemma right now. I got accepted to HKU acct/finance with my igcse grades, basically i got in by early admission. So if i go, i will leave high school a year earlier, not finishing my ib diploma. however, im pretty sure that if i finish my IB diploma, i’ll stand a very high chance of getting into warwick or maybe even LSE. Im so confused about whether i should stay in my school for an extra year and go to england or save a year and go to hku (which isnt a bad school either)</p>

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<p>btw, i acutally got an offer from UST with a full scholarship as well. but i already rejected it :P</p>