<p>you're making a hasty generalization. you're saying that because i said "people with tattoos are looked down upon," that implies i would support Hispanic and African Americans being looked down upon. You're argument is a logical fallacy, to be specific a hasty generalization, because you're making a conclusion and putting things in my mouth by tying something totally off topic into your argument. and for the record i never said people with tattoos should be looked down upon. it is a fact that they are harder to employ (Tattoos</a> and Piercings in the Workplace? | Job Blog - Great Jobs Great Companies!) and that a lot of people look down upon them. So yes, the African American and Hispanic gang members with tattoos are looked down upon, but in does that constitute entire races to be looked down upon. Your claim is ridiculous and absurd.</p>
<p>Tattoos are looked down upon because they are associated with gangs. African Americans and Hispanics are also associated with gangs. But do people subconsciously associate regular African Americans/Hispanics with gangs?</p>
<p>I don't really care about what your argument is, I was just pointing something out. Btw don't tell me what I'm saying.</p>
<p>As long as they are not obnoxious, you are ok.</p>
<p>idk if people subconsciously associate regular African Americans/Hispanics with gangs. there are probably some who do. but this is not an argument about race and gangs, like you made it out to be. btw i'm from stony brook in suffolk county hbu</p>
<p>aairzom,
I'm afraid you've made a logical fallacy.</p>
<p>You said plastic surgery is too fix imperfections. Now I'm not talking about burn victims or other cases like that. But a lot of those imperfections are self-percieved. Following this logic, it is completely for one's own interest that they get plastic surgery, as the individual is the one who decides something is imperfect and needs to be fixed. self-theraputic.</p>
<p>The only difference between tattoos and plastic surgery is that the individual doesn't neccessarily desire to fix something in getting a tattoo. But rather, they want to enhance something with it. theraputic, still, for some.</p>
<p>Personally, I would rather see people walking around with tattoos instead of a bunch of plastic surgery operations. I guess that just goes to show how society would rather have people conform to a set image and make themselves fit it, than allow for deviation from that norm through self expression.</p>
<p>But whatever...to each their own I guess.</p>
<p>2legit2quit, i did say tattoos can be therapeutic in some cases. and yes, a lot of these imperfections are self-perceived but they are still imperfections in the viewer's mind nevertheless. whether or not these imperfections are real, a lot of people have legitimate problems with the way their body was made. sometimes, the only way to deal with these problems is getting plastic surgery. I'm not saying i agree or disagree with these people's decisions nor am I saying plastic surgery is better than getting tattoos, because they are completely different. Like I said earlier, having plastic surgery can fix real or perceived imperfections while getting a tattoo does not have the same effect. And 2legit2quit, could you tell me which logical fallacy I used because I don't think I used one.</p>
<p>"IMO, anyone who judges someone based on what they look like does not possess an opinion you should worry about."</p>
<p>Unless, of course, you need to apply for a bank loan, interview for a job or to get into college, or meet your prospective in-laws, or decide you'd like to be a TV anchor, or....</p>
<p>^^ I was referring to the people on this forum.</p>
<p>aairzoom- I lived in Stony Brook for 8 years.</p>
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I know a handful of adults who are slightly racist because of this idea... it's rather sad.</p>
<p>that is sad. there are plenty of racists out there. you can't really do much about it besides demoting racism to your peers. and for the most part, bigotry isn't learned or picked up when someone's grown up; usually, a child is taught to hate from the woumb.</p>
<p>it's your body, so do what you want!
i personally like tattoo's, but only if they have meaning
so many people get such cliche tattoo's. like butterflies, the sun, cherries, stars, etc. me no likey those</p>
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so many people get such cliche tattoo's. like so many people get such cliche tattoo's.** like butterflies, the sun, cherries, stars, etc. me no likey those**
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<p>Don't worry, at FSU you'll see tons of girls parading around and showing those off.</p>
<p>maybe, but i can guarantee you that i will not be one of 'em!</p>
<p>Before getting one I would really think about what kind of career you want to pursue, because although tattoos are becoming more socially accepted, for some careers it probably never will be(law, business, etc).</p>
<p>I have two, but I'm going into the arts and can cover them if necessary. I've had both for at least year and don't regret it.</p>
<p>Don't get one just because you think it looks pretty.</p>
<p>I wouldn't get a tattoo myself, but I don't mind if people have them. Some can be beautiful and appropriate, depending on the situation. Some tattoos have a long history, with personal meaning. Some are solely for the aesthetics. Some people get them while drunk or high; others take years of deliberation before getting them. Some tattoos are definitely trashy; some can be classy.</p>
<p>In the end, someone has taken responsibility for his or her body and made a decision. I cannot judge people solely on what they do with their skin: that is reserved for once I get to know them. People who make bad decisions aren't necessarily bad people. Likewise, people who don't have tattoos aren't inherently good.</p>
<p>"People who make bad decisions aren't necessarily bad people."</p>
<p>This is certainly true. But the flipside is that a good person can make a very bad decision.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, a lot of people group "people who make bad decisions" as "bad people" when they really aren't. There's only so much you or I can do about that.</p>
<p>Wow there are really strong opinions on tattoos here. In southern california, they are really common and I barely think twice when I see them. So they're not all that common in other states huh?
I've made up my mind to get one when I turn 18 (still a year away) of the two flags of my parents countries kind of crossed. I have always been proud of my cultures and my patrias and it's one of the most important parts of my life. It's not going to be in an obvious place so I can hide it.
BTW, I'm latina so I guess I'm going to be joining the ranks of hispanics and african americans who have tattoos :)</p>
<p>Its your body and your choice so do what you want. I have 1 that I got down my arm of a cross with my dads name in it who is now dead and I love it. Its supposed to represent something and its a part of who you are so don't be ashamed of what people think about it, its your choice what you want to do so be an individual about it and get 1 if you want and dont be thinking about what other people think about it</p>
<p>I don't look down on people with tattoos unless the tattoo is something like the Confederate flag. </p>
<p>I've seen plenty of people with attractive tattoos. These include intelligent people in professional jobs.</p>
<p>I think it's silly and narrow minded to write people off because they happen to have a tattoo. Back in the day only so-called trashy people had them. Things are different now.</p>
<p>While no one in my family has a tat, I wouldn't mind if my H or sons got tattoos. Of course, since I wouldn't mind, even my grown S who once aspired to be a punk rock star doesn't have any tats or piercings.</p>
<p>As for the "imagine what the tattoo will look like when the person gets old": The person's skin will be wrinkled anyway, so I don't think that having a tat on it will make them look that much worse.</p>