I am a walking time-bomb, and I need advice

<p>I am in a rut.</p>

<p>School:
I am an electrical engineering major who just completed my freshmen year of college. The fall semester, I did ok. Grades weren't great (completely all my fault), but they weren't bad. I completely screwed up the spring semester (completely all my fault as well). I know for a fact I lost whatever small scholarships I had.</p>

<p>In my fall semester, I lived in a double with a roommate, in a suite with three other people. I was miserable and got along with none of them. Later that semester, I transferred to another dorm, which was a suite of four singles. I lived better there, because every one kept to themselves, but I still wasn't completely happy.</p>

<p>High School Information:
In high school, freshmen and sophomore year, I did really well, had good grades, etc. Still antisocial and miserable. Junior year, I went to that high school half day, and went to a tech center 45 minutes away, and I didn't do that great. Parental pressure increased probably due to all the college choices and stuff. Senior year, I continued to go to high school half day, and the for other half of day, I either went take a college course at the college I attend now or worked.</p>

<p>Parents:
We have a very combative relationship. They were too busy working four jobs together that I never really saw them. I can honestly say, they stopped being there for me after I reached the sweet age of like, 9.</p>

<p>They screwed up parenting me (see below), and honestly, we could never see eye-to-eye for anything, including what I'm allowed to do (chores), gender roles my culture expects me to abide by (girls should not hang out with friends, stay over at friends' house, should always be at home doing chores), what I'm allowed to wear (yelled at me for preferring to wear boys' shorts because they were longer and looser), who my friends should be (girls), etc. My parents also did and said some things that people consider emotional abuse (they remind me that I should be grateful that they didn't leave me on the streets to die, that they could have abandoned me in Cambodia, that I should be grateful that my parents feed me instead of forcing me to work at age 8, lashings for anything and everything start at an incremental 10). Lovely.</p>

<p>Fast forward to now, and they have quite a bit of money. As in, they have so much, they already bought a third house and planning on buying a sixth car. </p>

<p>Oh, and I disappointed my dad for not being accepted into UVA and majoring in business. My parents absolutely disapprove of me going to some mediocre state school (VCU) majoring in something they don't consider profitable (EE). Ever since I spent half an hour on the UVA application to get a lovely rejection, my dad's been pushing me to transfer schools that are in-state. This is my dad's way of telling me to transfer to UVA without having to say it, despite knowing I screwed up spring semester.</p>

<p>Now, the problem is, I am in not in the best mental, emotional, or physical state for college. They did not allow me to have a gap year.</p>

<p>Doctors:
After 18 years of feeling highly anxious, always aggressive, depressed, stressed out, emotionally worn out, etc etc I finally listened to some friends' advice and went to see a psychologist. In short, I have depression and an anxiety disorder (which could include ADHD, but we don't know how much of my ADD is due to actual ADD and not depression and other anxieties). I live in an unhealthy and un-nurturing environment that are either the cause or will aggravate my depression and anxiety (at home, with parents). My psychologist feels that in short of actually severing all ties with my parents, I should go to a psychiatrist and get a prescription for anti-depressants, work on coping skills, and hold out until I get my degree.</p>

<p>The problem is, my parents hold a very, very negative opinion on psychologists, psychiatrists, and the medications associated with them. When I explained to them why I needed to go see one, and what the psychiatrist said, they called BS and said I am lying.</p>

<p>I eventually did something very smart and told them that they, my parents, are either the cause or aggravated my depression and anxiety. After weeks and weeks of them yelling at me, I went on and argued with them some more about it. My parents think I've been poisoned by the American culture (I was born and raised in the US, they weren't), on top of all the other negative qualities they've always thought about me. As in, the ONLY positive thing they could say about me is that I am intelligent. My mom said that I've been such a rotten kid ever since I was little that she gave up hope on me ever being a decent person, and said, "Quite frankly, I don't care about you" (in Chinese, of course). I admit, when I was younger, I lied, stole, cheated, and got into fights. I was young, every one else did it too, and my parents thought it was the teacher who was supposed to do the parenting. So quite honestly, they didn't teach me squat. My parents' idea of teaching me morals was beating me until I looked like a wet raisin whenever I did anything wrong. My dad agrees with her, and they both want to kick me out unless I live "peacefully" and follow all of their rules, which I know would involve me working on transfer applications and majoring in a field I have absolutely no interest in. At the rate I'm going, I rather just drink rat poison and die in my sleep.</p>

<p>Choices:
So, I am in a rut. My parents are begrudgingly funding my college. My dad said he will not pay if I will not listen to him, and by "listen," he means going to the school he wants me to go to and majoring in the thing he wants me to go to. We've been arguing about that for almost three years now. My mom does not care any more, and she's only paying to keep the peace.</p>

<p>My parents want to kick me out. They'll probably stop paying for my college. They refuse to acknowledge that they screwed up parenting me, and believe that I got to where I am today because I am a spoiled, rotten kid who is destined for failure. I cannot claim independence. My workplace is have financial troubles, and it is unlikely I will be employed for long.</p>

<p>So, I don't know what I should do. I've talked to a psychologist, and I plan on talking to my university adviser to explain why I've messed up so much. I can't stand living with my parents. If I want to continue having insurance, I have to be a full time student. I can probably talk my parents into helping me co-sign a loan, but I'm looking at: $700/month for rent + utilities x 12 months because of the leases, $200/month for food, $8-8.2k/year for tuition, books, and supplies. That means I'm looking close to a $60k loan, if I could even get it. I shouldn't work during the school year any more because I'm looking at 18 credits semesters for the next five semesters, and engineering is really hard.</p>

<p>I don't really know what I should do. Can someone give me any advice? And some advice on private loans and such?</p>

<p>Additional information after the edit:
Today, I've stopped the stealing, cheating, and fighting. I do the "lie by omission" with my parents, since telling them the truth does not end well. I am, and was always, a reserved person unless I get angry. I don't party, do drugs, drink, that kind of thing. I have a job, I'm in college, and I don't have a criminal record. But my parents just won't be happy with that.</p>

<p>I have been prescribed Zoloft, and been told to take melatonin, and if that doesn't work, I've been given a prescription for Trozodone.</p>

<p>You’re obviously living in an extremely violent and destructive family. I would stay in therapy, take the medications as prescribed, and get away from them NOW. Regardless of their cultural differences, no one has the right to berate and physically abuse a child. You’ve done well considering the circumstances, so try not to be too hard on yourself now. You should have received help and intervention years ago, but it’s not too late and you’re doing the right thing by seeking it now.</p>

<p>I don’t understand the EE field being “unprofitable”, but the question is, do you like it and want to stay at your present school? If so, can you resurrect your scholarships at a later date, perhaps through a semester of academic probation? Can you provide documentation of the physical abuse? Sometimes this can be used to make a case for being considered an independent student. Certainly a discussion with your academic advisor and the FA office is in order and they may have other thoughts that will help you.</p>

<p>Even if you have to pay your own way, it can be done if you break it into smaller chunks and take your time. Good luck!</p>

<p>The main problem is that I’m still financially dependent on them. If I can them to co-sign a $60k loan, that leaves car insurance left, which is absolutely necessary to go to my job, and health insurance, which enables me to continue going to therapy.</p>

<p>I like EE. It is interesting, but it is hard. When I told my parents that I want to continue studying it because it is interesting, they said, “College is no place to study what you think is fun.” My parents’ idea of “profitable” means accounting, business management, MBAs, that kind of thing. And I like my current school. Also, I am very bad at adjusting to change, so it’s probably healthier if I don’t change schools.</p>

<p>I cannot document physical abuse. They largely stopped it when I threatened to call CPS (so about seven years ago).</p>

<p>I plan on a trip to my adviser to ask all of those questions. But to be honest, I’ve never heard of anybody regaining the scholarships they’ve lost. I was wondering whether anyone knew anything about forgiveness programs if I have documentation from my psychologist?</p>

<p>Even if you can only document emotional abuse (e.g. through email), you can sometimes use that as a case for being declared financially independent. I knew someone (also, oddly, a female EE major whose parents believed that majoring in EE was throwing her life away) who pulled it off.</p>

<p>I think that under your circumstances, and given that you’re in an employable, relatively high-salary major, a $60K loan would be worth it to get away from your parents. The problem is getting it. Do you have any sympathetic relatives who would be willing to co-sign?</p>

<p>Ordinarily, I would suggest looking into ROTC, if your school has ROTC scholarships, but I’m not sure whether they will take someone who came off a bad term and has been in long-term therapy. It might still be worth investigating, because if you can get it they will pay your way.</p>

<p>The problem with “documentation” is that I can only get them through third person sources, such as my psychologist and my close friends. I don’t exactly have a lot of friends that know the intimate details of my life. I highly doubt my relatives will be encouraged to do anything, since they don’t want to anger my parents. Will at least a psychologist calling the school help?</p>

<p>I don’t understand how to actually get a loan. Do you go to a bank and ask for a student loan? And don’t my parents have to submit their financial information before they can determine the amount? That kind of thing.</p>

<p>Right now, until I get some really good advice about what I should do, I’m looking at persuading my parents to sign me a $60k loan and let me to my own devices.</p>

<p>You won’t have to worry about transferring to UVA - they probably won’t take you since it sounds like you have a very low GPA and possibly failed some courses?</p>

<p>Here is some Tough Love - take it or leave it:</p>

<p>You are on a dangerous slippery slope to going through live being miserable and blaming your parents for your failures.
You are a young adult now and you have choices to make. You can be miserable or not, you can study or not, you can get along with people or not.</p>

<p>I am going to make a radical suggestion. You stay with your parents either continue at VCU or spend a semester at a Community college and concentrate on your academics.
As far as your parents buying a 6th car and third home - it’s their money. They don’t have to give you a cent of it.</p>

<p>Don’t bother looking into ROTC or the military - they won’t take you medically now since you have mental health issues.
Stay in counseling and on your medication, if you need to.
Good Luck - your life is just beginning, suck up some of the badness and get your education.</p>

<p>I get confused about what you consider ‘abuse’. Sounds like your parents have not spanked you (or whatever it was they did that you regard as physical abuse) since you were 12. Your parents being dissappointed in your choices and achievements is not ‘emotional abuse’. You’re 19 now; if you want admiration for your accomplishments you’re going to have to invest your time and energy into working for it. Also, spending all your time critiquing your parents ‘parenting skills’ and bemoaning the fact that their culture and cultural norms are not what you like - none of this is going to accomplish anything for you. You have to start focussing on your goals and on what YOU can do to accomplish them. So far it sounds like your parents are willing to pay your tuition and living expenses at VCU (even if they’re not happy about it) which is where you want to be. Your demand that they also have to be happy about it is a bit much. Like JustAMomOf4 said, suck it up, focus on improving your attitude, and do what it takes to move your life along towards your goals.</p>

<p>Totally agree with JustAMom.</p>

<p>Re-read your post. You need to learn some strategies for getting along with other people. Not being best buds with everybody, just facing the reality that we share this planet with other humans and we’ll butt heads but that’s okay.</p>

<p>I’m sorry for your childhood - it sounds like you were adopted from Asia? And I’m sorry you are feeling pressure for a guilt trip. But really the rest of your life is yours to live. You don’t have to be best friends with your college roommates but look at it as a time to learn some life skills.</p>

<p>ETA I just reread your OP and now I’m thinking your parents relocated to the US when you were young. I’m sure your parents feel they did a good thing bringing you here in hopes you would have a better life. Maybe research your parents’ country of birth and see what opportunities are available there for women.</p>

<p>All young people people think they are about to explode. All young people think their parents are the root of all evil. Same old same old. </p>

<p>Get over yourself and stop making excuses and stop blaming others. You did not get along with your roommates because YOU did not get along. Your parents are paying for college - don’t screw it up and do better in classes. Plenty of folks are entirely on thier own, without parents to foot the bill, so count your blessings.</p>

<p>-Be thankful that you live in a country where you have choices.
-Be thankful that your parents brought you to this country so you would have a chance for a bright future.
-Be thankful that you have hard working parents who have been able to financially support the family (with a nice savings put aside for the future)
-Be thankful that your parents are paying for your education and living expenses.
-Be thankful that your parents have been somewhat able to put aside some of their resentment regarding your behavior (you admitted that you stole, lied, fought).
-Be thankful that you have a psychologist to discuss your issues
-Be thankful that you have the opportunity to begin treatment and therapy for your issues
-Be thankful that your parents want a better life for you with less struggles than what they experienced.</p>

<p>It’s time to move on and let go of some of your negativity and resentment. Start focusing on the good things in your life.</p>

<p>Blaming others doesn’t go over to well on this forum and for good reasons. That said, I have witnessed kids that have gotten on the right medication that have significantly changed for the better. I don’t know you and don’t pretend to. Best of luck.</p>

<p>I agree that you need to keep working with the counselors, and if possible you should try a round of medication and see if it helps with the depression.</p>

<p>Many of your difficulties with your parents are typical of first generation children of Asian immigrant parents. Quite frankly, a counselor without experience in this area is not going to help you as much as someone who knows the territory. You need to get help from someone who is more expert with (or at least willing to learn about) your situation. There are a lot of autobiographies, novels, and short stories being written these days by authors who grew up in families like yours. Look for them in the library. Even if you can’t find direct help for dealing with your parents, knowing that you are not alone will give you some comfort.</p>

<p>The immigrant experience is not an easy one, and the more dissimilar the two cultures, the greater the challenges for the children. I wish you nothing but the best as you seek the best way to balance the two halves of your life.</p>

<p>“I admit, when I was younger, I lied, stole, cheated, and got into fights. I was young, every one else did it too…”</p>

<p>No, everyone else did NOT do it too.</p>

<p>I agree with some of the others. It’s time to own your own behavior. If you can’t learn to somehow get along with others, and accept responsibility for where you find yourself, you will lead a miserable life.</p>

<p>Hopefully counseling and medication (if appropriate) will help you to see things differently. Life is so much richer when we approach it with a positive attitude rather than a negative one. It took me a little while to learn this myself, but once I did, boy did life get better.</p>

<p>Good luck.</p>

<p>Hi Dear One-
I come from a place of being a Mom. You have had some rough spots in this road of life of yours-no doubt. My sense is that you want to pursue EE, are capable of earning the degree, and will make that happen because that is what you really want at the end of the day.
Given that scenario—what is your next step-your next choice? Is it staying at the college you are enrolled in, or transfering? Is it getting a student loan to cover expenses to attend, or accepting the monies offered by your parents?
You have choices, and you have the ability to make them. I believe in YOU.~APOL-a mom</p>

<p>JustAMomOf4: Thanks, I will never have to worry about UVA or the military. Glad I am seeing some positives (no sarcasm!) already. I am not suggesting that my parents give me a cent of their money or anything, I’m just giving some background information (how they went from four jobs to three houses and six cars in eighteen years).</p>

<p>memake: I will not go into details except I will say

  1. It wasn’t spanking. It left black marks that lasted for about two weeks.
  2. By “emotional abuse,” I do not mean that. I mean things like the constant life reminder that they could have left me for dead. If you don’t consider that abuse, then well, you have a strong soul.
  3. My parents plan on discontinuing the tuition payments.
  4. I am not demanding it. It’s just that one life wish that I’m sure every one has.</p>

<p>HighlandMom: I was not adopted from Asia. I was born and raised in the US. My parents relocated to the US as war refugees separately (they weren’t married at the time).</p>

<p>toadstool: Thanks for a kick on the butt. It’s not exactly advice I could use.</p>

<p>nysmile: 1. My parents didn’t exactly “bring me to this country.”
2. They don’t believe in savings.
3. Tuition and living expenses… not so much any more.
4. But yes, I am thankful for every thing else.</p>

<p>Ctyankee: Thanks.</p>

<p>happymomof1: Thanks for the advice about looking for a counselor with experience in this area. Although, I can’t really think of how to figure out which counselors have experience in an area, that’ll be something I’ll keep in mind.</p>

<p>Nrdsb4: Back then, my world consisted of my parents and my kindergarten class. So yes, not every one did it; just the noticable ones.</p>

<p>APOL: Thanks for being so kind. I will probably continue in the college I am currently enrolled in. I am not familiar with the student loan process, and I was hoping someone would give me a brief idea what to expect. I think I rather do that than to accept money from my parents.</p>

<p>If you failed or earned Ds in the Spring, you may want to look into repeating those courses. Talk to your advisor and read this section of your catalog about repeated courses. It looks like it could help your overall gpa.</p>

<p>[VCU</a> Bulletins :: Undergraduate study](<a href=“http://www.pubapps.vcu.edu/bulletins/undergraduate/?uid=10096&iid=30784]VCU”>http://www.pubapps.vcu.edu/bulletins/undergraduate/?uid=10096&iid=30784) </p>

<p>I realize VCU doesn’t get much mention on this board but I was very impressed with it. The teachers were available, the advisors were excellent, the classes were small, etc. I understand that it is not a prestigious school but it’s pretty nurturing for such a big place. You really need to prioritize your psych health and make sure you talk to a counselor experienced with Asian families. (Call and ask them if they have experience in this area.) You may need to take some time off from school. There are lots of people who take a long time to graduate from VCU and take classes while working. But you have to get yourself to a place where you can deal with the present and stop looking at the past.</p>

<p>To all those that told me to “accept that it was your fault, suck it up, and get over it,” could you not see that I’m working on my faults? Step one of recovery is to admit you have a problem, and step two is to go find help? Why be so cold-hearted and acid-tongued when I’ve clearly admitted I have problems and that I’m working on them?</p>

<p>RE: They don’t believe in savings. In your own words, you stated, “They have quite a bit of money…”.</p>

<p>Re: They didn’t bring me here. In your own words, you stated that your parents would say, “…they could have abandoned me in Cambodia”. To many, this would imply that you were born in another country and were brought/moved to the US.</p>

<p>Re: Tuition/living expenses. You say, “Not so much anymore” yet you also say that they are paying for your current tuition and expenses.</p>

<p>I’m sorry that you feel that your life has been a mess. What people need to remember is that even though we may feel that we’ve had it rough, there are others out there who have had a worse time of it. Focus on the positives. Continue with your therapy. Find the root of some of your issues. </p>

<p>Good luck and hoping for a bright and happy future for you.</p>

<p>Lalah-
WOW-you are one strong woman. OK-you have clarified your next step. GREAT!!!
I personally do not know what is involved with student loans. My guess is-first stop is your financial aid office. Without going into too much detail, ask them for a step by step procedures for securing the necessary financing.
Other students have done it, you can, too. Hang in there-'cause you are going to do some amazing things with your life! ~APOL</p>

<p>2collegewego: Thank you for your kind and helpful advice. I already saw that part of the bulletin and I’m slowly working on those courses.</p>

<p>VCU has never claimed or tried to be a prestigious school, which was good for me since I never wanted or tried to be in a prestigious school. I just want to move on, but I’m so blind that I can only see the past, which distorts the present, and I really can’t see the future. It’s a dark hole and I don’t know what do do.</p>