<p>It was my first choice, but I guess i will have to go to Berkeley now!</p>
<p>i guess noone got the joke</p>
<p>Or, it just wasn't that funny...</p>
<p>Yeah, BJU is liberal and Berkeley's conservative.</p>
<p>posters probably never make it to read your actual post! it looks serious by the title!</p>
<p>kyledavid80l</p>
<p>your insight into my thought process is quite telling.</p>
<p>as for mr. ernie..</p>
<p>the thought came to me and i wanted to see some other input on the matter..
more people need to know about PROPER education, which can only be found at BJU Bob</a> Jones University - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</p>
<p>probably the serious answer to that question is because it's not accredited</p>
<p>That is a good serious answer to the question.</p>
<p>Enders Game?</p>
<p>University</a> Accreditation ~ BJU</p>
<p>come on, they're accredited by the * Transnational * Association of Christian Colleges and Schools</p>
<p>Probably because BJ U students aren't allowed to go online.</p>
<p>^^ haha, probably.</p>
<p>Its easy for those of us who view their fundamentalist beliefs as odd to make fun of them ( Mitt Romney himself has been given lots of grief for his "non-traditional" religion when he ran for President). But folks, I know a lot of graduates of this school and I can tell you this --- THEY'RE BRIGHT, HARDWORKING,
HAVE GOOD WORK ETHIC, ARE RELIABLE, AND MOST OF ALL --- ARE VERY WELL EDUCATED AND COMPETENT.</p>
<p>Bob Jones University, with its variety of degrees and insistence on high standards for its students could EASILY have passed standardized accreditation if they wanted to. So, why did they not seek it when they could easily have done so in the past ?</p>
<p>Well, Bob Jones, Sr. ( FOUNDER) was leery of academic accreditation almost from the founding of the college, and by the early 1930s, he had publicly stated his opposition to holding membership in a regional accrediting association. Not surprisingly, Jones and the college were criticized for this stance, and academic recognition, as well as student and faculty recruitment, were hindered.</p>
<p>Bob Jones wrote :</p>
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<h2>Let me make it clear: we have no objection to educational work highly standardized….We, however, cannot conscientiously let some group of educational experts or some committee of experts who may have a behavioristic or atheistic slant on education control or even influence the administrative policies of our college. </h2>
<p>In any case, lack of accreditation seems to have made little difference during the post-war period, when the University more than doubled in size.</p>
<p>Because graduates did not have the benefit of accredited degrees, the faculty felt an increased responsibility to prepare their students. Early in the history of the college, there had been some hesitancy on the part of other institutions to accept BJC credits at face value, but by the 1960s, BJU alumni were being accepted by most of the major graduate and professional schools in the United States.</p>
<p>Some graduate schools even ignored their own rules that restricted admissions to graduates of accredited institutions. </p>
<p>But note folks, the University’s strongest programs were in the areas of music, speech, and art, disciplines in which ability could be measured by audition or portfolio rather than through paper qualifications. People who look down on this school tend to forget that the VAST MAJORITY OF THEIR GRADUATES GO ON TO FIND GOOD JOBS and GO ON TO GOOD GRADUATE SCHOOLS.</p>
<p>By the early 2000s, the University quietly reexamined its position on accreditation as degree mills proliferated and various government bureaucracies, such as law enforcement agencies, began excluding BJU graduates on the grounds that the University did not appear on appropriate federal lists.</p>
<p>In 2004, the University began the process of joining the Transnational Association of Christian Colleges and Schools. Candidate status—effectively, accreditation—was obtained in April 2005, and full membership in the Association was conferred in November 2006. Because TRACS grants accreditation only to evangelical Christian institutions of higher learning, the administration believed that the University could obtain the benefits of accreditation without losing its academic independence ( which they cling to tenaciously ).</p>
<p>So, the university is accredited by the Transnational Association of Christian Colleges and Schools, an accrediting organization recognized by the Department of Education and the Council for Higher Education Accreditation.</p>
<p>To be honest, it still seems sketchy. If they wanted accreditation, why couldn't they have tried more well-known and respectable associations? You cite that BJ was "leery of academic accreditation," which was why they didn't bother with associations, yet years later, they realized they needed academic accreditation. But they went to the "Transnational" association. (It even seems odd that they'd use "transnational" in this context, as "international" would seem more appropriate.)</p>
<p>Transnational</a> Association of Christian Colleges and Schools - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</p>
<p>My real criticism isn't so much on the association as the institution. Conservatism (putting it lightly) aside, it seems that BJU is simply attempting to resist traditional--dare I say, proper--educational paradigms, such as conventional accreditation. Perhaps this is off base, but that's simply what it seems to be to me.</p>
<p>Residence hall students are forbidden to go to movie theaters or, when visiting local homes, to watch any films with a rating higher than a G rating.</p>
<p>DVD/VCRs are not allowed in residence halls; DVD players on computers cannot be used for watching films. Televisions may be used only as monitors to play video games. </p>
<p>Curfew is at 10:25 p.m., and residence hall students must be in their own rooms and quiet at 11 p.m. Lights must be out by midnight. </p>
<p>The University will not allow anything displaying the logos of Abercrombie & Fitch or its subsidiary Hollister to be "worn, carried, or displayed" on campus</p>
<p>Guys:</p>
<p>Socks are required at all times.
Hats may not be worn indoors except in athletic facilities
They have different dresses for the morning and afternoon!?</p>
<p>Girls:</p>
<p>Shoes such as combat boots or hiking boots are not permitted.
Necklines may be no lower than four fingers below the collarbone. </p>
<p>Wow, fun place huh?</p>
<p>How exactly do they control off campus behavior? Honor system?</p>
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How exactly do they control off campus behavior? Honor system?
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I'm pretty sure that they don't allow you to leave campus unescorted by a faculty member.</p>
<p>RE: I'm pretty sure that they don't allow you to leave campus unescorted by a faculty member.</p>
<p>And of course you would be wrong.</p>
<p>Maybe it's not a faculty member that you have to be escorted by. Maybe they changed that policy recently. As of 2005, I know for a fact that that was their policy.</p>
<p>from what i have read, Jarn is correct.</p>