Let's play rank California universities...

College Search & Selection
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<p>yeah.....sure..... ok. So, is your lack of enough hugs as a child the reason that you have built up this arrogant and false exterior?</p>

<p>you remind me of a guy at my school who says
1710 on SAT(apparently there was some extra credit section we all missed)
280 on PSAT
Accepted ED to UC Berkeley Med school in his junior year
Accepted EA to Harvard in his senior year through a "special program" which he dosent know the name of.
He's also a 4'9" world class swimmer, violin player, etc etc.</p>

<p>Are you getting my drift?</p>

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<p>haha, I think we all had one of those...</p>

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<p>Gutrade,</p>

<p>Going to Yale doesn't make you better than anyone else on this board. Your actions will speak louder than your words. Instead of showing how terrible Berkeley is, try to make Yale better. It's called "being constructive."</p>

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<p>HAHA semipitern--you crack me up. But you're right, maybe he just needs love-- LOTS AND LOTS of love. </p>

<p>I've been reading this site frequently recently, and the only boards Gut seems to write on are the ones anti-Cal & anti-UC. (Dunno why either)</p>

<p>Sigh--why is there so much hatred in the world.</p>

<p>On a side note--Hayden Christensen from Star Wars is so hot (sigh) omg he's beautiful. Man, I wish I could stare at him all day. He is even more beautiful than Jude Law. (geez i want to be an actress- sc*ew college and graduate school--i mean in acting you get paid more, you get to associate with BEAUTIFUL guys, like hayden eh)//Sigh....</p>

<p>Ok, so yeah back to my main point. LIke UCLA said GUT, you should tell us how wonderful and superb Yale is. Oh and also how one takes the rejection from Harvard eh.</p>

<p>If it makes you feel better, my friend who is attending Harvard as a physics/chemistry double major got into it without studying (seriously, I used to watch movies with this guy at 4 in the morning when we had class the next day at 7), just being an innate genius, and scored 1550+ on his SATs without studying at all, was the AMC winner, scored over 130 on it because he's--like i said--a prodigy, and he has many friends, is an overall amiable, fun-loving guy. Not to mention, he's not cocky about his school nor his natural intelligence.</p>

<p>Oh he also got a full ride to Cal Tech, got waistlisted (yep,wrongly too) at MIT, got into Yale, but he took Harvard because he got a scholarship there as well. And seriously--wow--this kid never studied for his grades, or at least rarely.</p>

<p>But look, everyone (at the risk of sounding corny) has their talents/natural abilities. And although I wish I could be a genius like my friend, I'm happy with my musical abilities whatnot. (Not to mention I have a phobia for chemistry.) And maybe Guts's is being condescending towards others, even though there are many smart people in the world and frankly putting others down incessantly doesn't improve anyone's status in society nor in the intellectual world. </p>

<p>Ok, let's be honest. I respect my friend because he's a natural born genius. I mean I respect his intellect much more than the guy who had to study his way to the top. Hard work is a given, but still. I can't help but respect his natural smarts more than I do a guy who had to study his way to get a 1550+ SAT, while all my friend did was waltz in. <em>cough</em> <em>nudge</em> (sound like anyone eh?)
So yeah enough arrogance please; most people who decide to attend good universities are all born in the same intellectual "class" as you call it. (Exception is my friend who-- WOW-- is top notch in mathematics and science.) Main difference is how much work one puts in.</p>

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<p>Oh and GUTRADE is ABOUT to go to college?</p>

<p>Wow, and he already seems so "confident" about himself without having experienced any college life whatsoever.</p>

<p>Look-- I know a guy who attends Yale right now--he's going to be a senior. He got 1600/800/800/800 on his SATs. He was valedictorian of his school, etc.</p>

<p>Turns out when he got to Yale he was one of the dumbest kids there. Don't know what happened. In his high school he was one of the most intelligent, but in college he turned out to be like a "jock."</p>

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<p>At the expense of looking like a freak by posting 3 times in a row eh, I just wanted to clarify that Yale is a bad school to choose for science, Gut.</p>

<p>It has a *****ty science department, so you should have chosen another school, instead of simply picked a university because of rank.</p>

<p>Another thing, I just finished my first year of college Gut, so I am not an "incoming freshman."</p>

<p>You're obviously an "incoming freshman" with the arrogance,but no worries you'll soon see how smart others really are (naturally intelligent as well) once you attend university.
This happened with a classmate of mine who was extremely arrogant back in high school. He was good at science.</p>

<p>He got into Berkeley engineering (which is 3rd in the nation after MIT and Stanford), and he realized that there are many other geniuses in the world and that no--he's not the Hayden Christensen <em>sigh</em>of science. He's gotten a bit more humble and for good reason.</p>

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<p>Earlier I said that Gutrade was rejected from both Cal and Stanfurd, but I guess I was wrong. He was rejected from stanfurd and TRIED to apply to Cal but he was too late. Ok, so the question is why would he try to apply to Cal if it is such an awful school? I can truly understand that people don't think Cal is on the HYP level, but it makes me laugh/cringe to hear people say its actually a "horrible" school. Even if you take the lowest of Cal's many rankings, that still puts us in the low twenties for the country. Low twenties. In the the county. So that means out of the thousands of schools out there Cal is better then all but 20 of them. How in any of your twisted minds could that be "horrible?" And in its highest ranking it is ranked #2 in the WORLD, ahead of Gutrade's infallible stanfurd and Yale. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!</p>

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<p>"Stanford
Berkeley
Cal Tech
UCLA
UCD
UCSD
UCI
Cal Poly SLO
USF
USC"</p>

<p>Wow, what did USC do to you? You're joking, right? University of San Francisco/Cal Poly/UCI/UCSD before USC? There's really actually NO WAY you can justify that list. There are no stats or numbers that prove a school like USF is "better" than USC.</p>

<p>So, to reiterate: what did USC do to you for you to rank it so low? Don't tell me you're one of those parents who grew up when it was still a party school and still haven't gotten the news that it's a respected, top-thirty university yet?</p>

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<p>I agree,</p>

<pre><code> USF????? USF is a crime against humanity. It advertises in the newspaper for students. USF is known in the bay area as the equivalent of DeVry, ITT Tech, and University of Phoenix. I'm figuring you must have a some family connection to the school otherwise you're holding to the Jesuit traditions of education that were once respected....about a century ago. It is pretty to look at though.
</code></pre>

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<p>USF is not seen as equivalent to DeVry, although I assume you were joking. I lived in the bay area thru high school and from my experience it is seen as on par with chico/san diego state...which means it's rep is better than about 20 CSU's.</p>

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<p>Can anyone rank the CSU's (or at least some of them)?
What are your POSITIVE comments on CSU's?</p>

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<ol>
<li>cal poly slo</li>
<li>san diego</li>
<li>cal poly pomona</li>
<li>chico</li>
<li>long beach</li>
</ol>

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<p>What are CSU's?</p>

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<p>CSUs: California State Universities </p>

<p>Let's not disparage them too much, now. Spielberg got rejected from USC and ended up at CSU: Long Beach. </p>

<p>And I guess he's doing pretty okay. :)</p>

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<p>cal poly san luis is as selective as mid-tier UC schools. its academic programs particularly at the UGR level are remarkably distinguished.</p>

<p>the other schools giants lists, particularly san diego state and cal poly pomona, are at least as good as and perhaps a bit better than third tier UC schools. both of these schools reject applicants who go on to places like riverside and santa cruz.</p>

<p>in fact, there is a very broad array of quality in the CSU system, moreso than the UC system. makes sense since there are 23 schools compared to nine UGR in the UC. some of the bottom half CSU schools, most in fact, are still trying to hustle apps for fall enrollments here almost in june. got a pulse? got a GED? come on down!</p>

<p>the quality distance continues to spread. CPSLO just completed a quarter BILLION dollar advancement drive--that will put places like bakersfield and stanislaus in the dust.</p>

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<p>Giants did well,</p>

<pre><code> I think his/her rankings is pretty accurate. Keep in mind that Cal Poly's really are technically oriented. In fact they have pretty decent graduate programs in engineering and mathematics. I'd say Cal State wise.
</code></pre>

<p>1.Chico
2.Long Beach
3.Fullerton
4.San Francisco State
5.San Diego State</p>

<p>They are ranked on us news and world report. Long Beach is a top tier Master's only university and so is chico. The cal poly's and CSU's listed are decent schools and a real bargain for the quality of education. They also generally love hiring their own graduates as professors. I've known several people who acquired teaching positions right after receiving their master's degrees. (they did have best thesis awards.)<br>
I did my Teaching Credential at a CSU in between undergrad and graduate school and it was very flexible and worthwhile. I learned plenty and it was nice to not feel like school was a matter of life or death for one year.</p>

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<p>drj is quite right as well</p>

<p>San luis obispo has many many very successful graduates who study engineering after doing undergrad at cal and ucla. Industry oriented, but very good education and common school for average students from above average UC's.</p>

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<p>Gutrade,</p>

<p>Sorry I didn't see your post. Yeah I was joking about DeVry ;) However it is the equivalent to CSU's under Cal State Long beach and cal poly's. I just get irritated because some people are zealots that believe it's on par with the best in the state when I've never known one person to be rejected from any program at that school, ever. However, maybe I've gotten lucky running into USF acceptees around town. (or unlucky who knows?) Plenty of laymen don't know the difference between USF UCSF so I suppose most of this doesn't apply to these boards :) <em>scream</em></p>

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<p>red and gold, there is no way you can put fullerton and san francisco ahead of san diego.</p>

<p>assuming you are putting cal poly SLO and pomona first and second, which many experts do, you must next place san diego state.</p>

<p>here's why:</p>

<ol>
<li> most Ph.D. programs in system, ten.</li>
<li> only CSU ranked by USNWR as a national university.</li>
<li> 43% accept rate actually better than either cal poly.</li>
<li> largest b-school in the west and among best in CSU.</li>
<li> highly ranked communications program.</li>
</ol>

<p>san fran can say none of those things and fullerton is so inferior that it still is accepting apps in two major disciplines. even chico and beach are better by most accounts.</p>

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<p>drj, fullerton is not inferior, I object to that. Accounting is the best of the west, my sister said it has won something Mock(??). Let's say it was not easy to get A there, not in business, not in physics/chemistry/math and I was getting a lot of As at Cal Poly Pomona. I think I was on dean's list or president's list just about every quarter at Cal Poly Pomona.</p>