Northwestern HPME Part 1

<p>xwang90- next summer, I'll probably be going to India with the Red Cross; otherwise, I'll hopefully still be doing research in the same lab I am now</p>

<p>worst bad boy- ha, no I'm not taking all 35. Just the regular (bio, chem, phy, calc, eng, maybe history)</p>

<p>If you want to apply next year, the link is:
<a href="http://www.umsl.edu/%7Esep/stars.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.umsl.edu/~sep/stars.htm&lt;/a>
Fee is around $1,000 and out of state can apply, you just have to arrange housing too.</p>

<p>Thanks Kannada. I really thought you were going to take all 35 since your other stats are so good. Are you a rising senior or rising junior?</p>

<p>I'm going to be a junior. I want to get into HPME so badly, but... we'll see. what are you?</p>

<p>A rising sophomore. I just randomly came across this thread. Anyways, How do you hook up with a professor who will be willing to mentor you and let you do your own research? I am already with a professor but I am doing stuff like helping other undergrads with their project.</p>

<p>it really depends on the professor, how many people he already has in his lab, and how big his lab is. You just have to search for the right person. The lab I am in is fairly small and I like it compared to the very large one I was previously in because I get to know the professor much more and we get to talk about my work often.</p>

<p>how many people does HPME accept every year, versus the 35 they will let in in a few years?</p>

<p>what kind of stats do you need to get into the HPME program? if anyone is enrolled in it, please post your stats and any suggestions you have. it would greatly be appreciated.</p>

<p>If i understand it correctly, HPME has been cancelled. Please check with NWU.</p>

<p>I found this on the Feinberg website:</p>

<p>"The HPME, a combined seven-year BA-MD program, has historically accounted for up to one-third of the medical school class with approximately 60 matriculants per year. The school would like to reduce the program to 20 students per year, with 12 to 15 admitted in the standard manner as freshmen and 5 to 8 admitted as sophomores. This will help address some deficiencies related to academic performance of some HPME students and improve the overall diversity of the medical school class, since few minorities enter on this pathway. We recognize, however, that the HPME is a joint program with the Evanston campus undergraduate program and any changes must meet our collective needs."</p>

<p>However it doesn't say anything about when this change would take place.</p>

<p>Hey...i just got my SAT II score back...and i got a 730 in chem, 800 in math. My chem looks a little weak, but would do you guys think of this in terms of getting into HPME (i kno obviously a lot of other things are taken into consideration)</p>

<p>I understand how they want to reduce it to increase diversity. When I was there, I knew good number of HPMEs and they were all Asians. I was told by one of them the HPME class was basically 1/3 Chinese, 1/3 Koreans, and 1/3 Indians (as in India)!</p>

<p>yeah, I read that blurb about HPME lacking diversity and i was like, but wait, there are a lot of asians, how is there no diversity?! then i realized...oh...it's all asians....</p>

<p>the "academic performance" part is pretty valid, in my opinion. it's a little unfair that normal premeds have to work their ass off to get into northwestern med, and some HPMEs can coast along and basically do no work. i believe that if you get in, you should continue to work hard and not take things for granted.</p>

<p>nkg232:
I wouldn't worry about the 730 chem. My score was less than that and I got in! </p>

<p>Just general advice, don't worry too much about what HPME "wants". Just put together the best application you can and hope for the best.</p>

<p>Do I need to take three SAT subject tests to apply HPME?</p>

<p>you need Chem and Math IIC, but I would just take 3 to be safe. I took 4 SAT IIs</p>

<p>take the chem and Math IIC for sure, and then pick other ones that you think you will do really well on. As long as you think you can score 750+ on it, you should definitely take it. It will only help you! I recommend picking a non-science one so that you can show them you are not only a math person.</p>

<p>I got 800 on both Chem and Math2c. Do you think I shall take another one (Literature) if I can only score 700-750 on it?</p>

<p>Take it but not with that self-defeatist attitude.</p>

<p>"I got 800 on both Chem and Math2c. Do you think I shall take another one (Literature) if I can only score 700-750 on it?"</p>

<p>I think it depends. Are you applying to any schools that require (or strongly recommend) three SAT IIs? Because if you are, you'll have to take another one anyways, and HPME will see it. If this third SAT II is optional, have you already taken the SAT I? If you have, and your verbal and writing scores were higher than your projected literature SAT II score, then I would not take the additional SAT II. They have enough proof with your SAT I that you are a competent writer and can understand what you are reading.<br>
Also, have you taken a practice SAT II literature test? You may score higher than you think! And be sure to remember that there are many different SAT II tests to take. If you've learned another language in high school, you may want to look into a language one. </p>

<p>Sorry that was so long! Really, your math and chem SAT IIs are great and I wouldn't worry too much. I would put most of your effort into the essay at this point.</p>

<p>I got 2310 (750/770/790) on the SAT1. There are only five schools I know of that require three SAT II tests in the class of 2011, Yale, Standford, Princeton, Harvard, and Georgetown. I'm debating on taking the third SAT II test in October to apply for Harvard early action. I have to put in some effort in order to get over 750 on most of the SAT II tests. For both BS/MD and non BS/MD schools, there are many essays to write.</p>