<p>Ah ok ^^ congratulations to him. I’m all for being truthful in applications, of course. I meant I didn’t really go into detail about my service group I lead, and passed the opportunity to get what could have been a pretty significant secondary letter of rec from a guy linked to my group. Who knows - it might have not done a thing to my app. But I AM a passionate, authentic person… kind of hard to tell over this forum. 
I agree that those are important things in the college application process… and life in general.</p>
<p>jalinovi,</p>
<p>I give you credit for who you are. There is always an element of having to package yourself for the colleges. It turned out sonny did not know NYU’s special programs and basically presented himself as who he is and it is a good match (without his having to do anything special). </p>
<p>I was speaking also generally to how much pressure there is on all applicants to present themselves “in the best light” for the colleges. It is good when the truth can be said and it is still accepted. LOL, my son’s essay indicated he may be a rebel rouser even in the school he is accepted to and not all schools like that!</p>
<p>Anyway, I wish you the best. May you get into the school of your dreams and have the means to attend it! You appear to be one of the many deserving students (from what you have shared)!</p>
<p>Thanks Evolving! You have some great insight. :)</p>
<p>I have one D currently at NYU and another who may apply in 2 years. Older D is a music major in Steinhardt and is recieving a talent scholarship which is merit-based. No need per FAFSA. She is a Dean’s scholar and does not get any money for it. From what I can tell, none of the Scholars programs give $ unless there is financial need.</p>
<p>Per NYU’s website, the only merit based scholarships are: MLK (university wide–400 given), Baird for NMF, Intel/Siemen’s Winners, Woman in Science and some education, music and art scholarships through Steinhardt. There are also talent scholarships given through Tisch that are merit based only.</p>
<p>Any other scholarships have a financial need component as listed on the website. Which means that they can up your financial aid package if you are awarded them and have need, but you will not recieve a cent from them if there isn’t any need.</p>
<p>Went through this 2 years ago with D. She was awarded an academic scholarship which she couldn’t “claim” and it had to be changed to a talent award that was merit based if she was going to get any of the $.</p>
<p>@uskoolfish so presidential, DEANs, etc. are only need-based!?
i’m unclear about this. my EFC is barely there. that with my stats, do i have a chance?!</p>
<p>I cannot say for sure, but I do know that if you are accepted into a scholar’s program, it does not necessarily come with $.</p>
<p>In Steinhardt, students are placed in either the Dean’s or University scholars programs. It seems to be an arbitrary 50-50 division with different Deans as your advisor. D is a Dean’s Scholar and did not get any money and we were told that they no longer give it out. However, when the school is giving out need based aid to students, theycall grants within financial aid packages by different names. Students in “Dean’s Scholars” or “University Scholars” with need perhaps get a “Dean’s scholarship” or a “Univeristy Scholarship.” But they are not merit aid which would imply that they are available to everyone regardless of need.</p>
<p>Members of the Scholar’s program in CAS are called Presidential Scholars. Here is a link.
[NYU</a> > Undergraduate Admissions > Financial Aid > Scholarships](<a href=“Undergraduate Admissions”>Undergraduate Admissions) Notice that it gives no mention of any merit or financial aid.</p>
<p>COLLEGE OF ARTS AND SCIENCES/NYU (this shows that scholars at CAS do offer scholarships)</p>
<p>Presidential Honors Scholars
(The top five percent of the entering class is invited to join; students may also apply for entry after they have matriculated, having demonstrated superlative academic achievement and a consistent record of leadership and service to the community.) </p>
<p>receive special advising from College faculty and staff,
challenge themselves in honors courses and through independent research,
study abroad,
take advantage of New York City’s cultural resources, and
develop leadership skills through community service.
Activities include: </p>
<p>Scholars Lecture Series
cultural events in the city
community service projects
Freshman Honors Seminar
study abroad intersession trips
Scholars admitted as freshmen directly from high school receive financial assistance in the form of a scholarship. Membership in the Scholars Program is renewable annually, depending on the quality of the scholar’s academic records and his or her level of participation in the program. All scholars are expected to be full-time students and maintain a grade point average of at least 3.65. </p>
<p>Students interested in joining the program have the opportunity to apply in the spring term prior to their sophomore year. Applications are available in the Dean’s office, room 909, Silver Center each year after spring break.</p>
<p>Both NYU links offer slightly different information regarding the Presidential Honors Scholars. The link I provided is off the current NYU admissions web site. Not sure how current the other info is, although I did a search on NYU’s search forum and found it too. I guess the best way to find out for sure is to call financial aid directly for the most current info. Whether it is merit or financial aid, they are the gatekeepers.</p>
<p>The head of D’s department awarded her what he thought was merit (non-need based) aid for academics at Steinhardt. This scholarship had always been a source of merit aid. But there was a change in policy and need was necessary to receive the award for D’s incoming class. Ultimately it was worked out, but D’s scholarship need to be changed to a talent one so that she could qualify for money. The department head had sent the request for D to receive the original scholarship to financial aid and they would not award her $ without need based on the new requirement.</p>
<p>So my advice is to get info directly from financial aid if there is a question. Any other info may not be as current.</p>
<p>Yeah…my data is from CAS (as opposed to NYU in general). I know the various schools have VERY differing policies on their scholarships…what they offer, why they offer it, how much it is. They definitely keep us all on our toes.</p>
<p>@R124687 yeah, thanks, i read that on the site.
still not sure if there is money involved ;p oh well.
i hope my act, ecs, essays, etc. are good enough!!! :D</p>
<p>I’m gonna sadly add this note on this thread. A “counselor” at NYU told me today (3/16) that basically anyone invited to the 3/27-28 weekend would have already been notified. I’m not REALLY sure I believe that - based on what I’ve seen over the past 2 years and WHEN people were notified and their stats. Hardly anyone has come on here to say “hey, I’m admitted!” that is not LSP or big scholarship. Yet there should be LOTS more CAS honors students. Last couple of years they were anywhere from March 8-17 ish. Perhaps they changed that weekend and “regular honors” students aren’t invited (only TOP honors/scholly recipients). It’s certainly EARLIER than it has been (think it’s been April 1-3 ish before). So seems like the notification should be EARLIER. But all I’ve heard is BIG scholly, and LSP. </p>
<p>So I wondered if someone might start an “Official Acceptance NYU RD class fo 2014” thread…so we can watch and learn. I’m so weirded out that colleges make this so “mysterious”. I’m just an advocate that too much information is always better than too little. Well…that’s relative. Depends on the subject, eh?</p>
<p>The NYU counselor arranged my trip for March 27-28. I’m from California and I have no idea what the NY college atmosphere/experience is like, so I decided to go to New York even though I doubt I will attend this school. </p>
<p>Is anyone else here going to NYU on the 27th and 28th for the DEANS scholar event?</p>
<p>Also, does anyone know how selective this program is?
(I feel like I can only give NYU serious consideration if this program is top notch and not just for “the Top 5%” of incoming freshmen because I have applied to and have been accepted into more prestigious schools.–and I’m not trying to be cocky or anything, I just want the best education that I can get).</p>
<p>SDeezy. The “Honors” is top…? 5 ish %. But the DEANs scholarship is MUCH more selective. As for the “program” being “top notch”…to what “program” (school/major) are you applying? That makes a big difference. And I agree you SHOULD visit…NYU is not really like most other college campuses…it “is” New York - you kind of have to love it. Good luck on your decisions.</p>
<p>does anyone know if the presidential honors scholarship includes funded study abroad?</p>
<p>did anyone receive the presidential scholars yet?</p>
<p>At least three at D’s high school received email yesterday of their NYU acceptance, and notified that a package was being shipped today…so we wait to see. We are in NJ.</p>
<p>they said today they are so busy the packages may go out very late today or Monday(?) instead.</p>