<p>Yaguarre- no that's not. Writing is scored out of 12, but not added to your composite.</p>
<p>peabody- Not saying that you would want this, but best case scenario would be that you get accepted into Yale and rejected from Harvard. Of course, it would be extremely awesome to get accepted into either, but at least that scenario would allow you to go to Yale. You wouldn't have to do much explaining about why Yale over Harvard!</p>
<p>My dad said that when he lived in Cambridge, most kids at Harvard had their lights turned off at night (were partying), but kids at MIT were usually studying late into the night, because he could see them. He felt that Harvard kids thought that because they had gotten to Harvard, that they felt that was good enough for them.</p>
<p>Probably untrue, but that was what he said.</p>
<p>Decision: Accepted</p>
<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] Fee Waiver Used?: no
[</em>] SAT I (by section): 800 CR 780 M 720 W
[<em>] SAT IIs: Math IIC 800 Chem 800 Bio-M 800
[</em>] GPA, Weighted and Unweighted: UW - 3.99 W - 4.1
[<em>] Rank: School doesn't rank
[</em>] APs (including this year's):Bio, Chem, Calc BC, Stat, Physics C-Mech, Physics C- E&M, US History, Stats; All 5's. This year: AP English Lit, AP US Gov., AP Comp Sci
[<em>] Senior Yr Courseload:AP Lit, AP Gov, Complex Numbers, Diff. Eq., AP Comp Sci, Neurobiology, Honors Anthropology, Honors Earth Science
[</em>] Number of Apps from Your School: around 10 EA, dunno RD
[<em>] Other stats (Awards, etc.): Music Awards (Bass Clarinet), County Level Distinctions, etc.
[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[</em>] ECs listed on app: Class Government, Music, research, USABO semifinalist, AIME Qualifier, Natl Merit, Natl Achievement, Other stuff like representing my high school at political functions like a NASA space station downlink (I have a really hideous picture with the Secretary of Education) and representing my school at a hearing for a State House-Senate initiative to improve math/sci education in VA.
[<em>] Essays (subject and responses): One was about astronomy and how it colors my relationships with people, and another about acquiring language in unusual ways. Both were pretty good.
[</em>] Teacher Recs:I don't know, didn't read them
[<em>] Counselor Rec: Dont know
[</em>] Interview (feel, interviewer and general location): On-campus was a little rough, I felt a bit cornered by the interviewer in his office. Alum was awesome. We really got along well.
[<em>] Hook (TASP, RSI, Research, etc.): plasma physics research at an overseas institution?
[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[</em>] State or Country: VA
[<em>] School Type, Average Stats of School (if available):Public, competitive
[</em>] Ethnicity: Black
[<em>] Gender: Male
[</em>] Income Bracket: Well-off
[<em>] Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): URM
[</em>] Strengths:
[<em>] Weaknesses:
[</em>] Why you think you were accepted/deferred/denied: I hope it's something OTHER than my ethnicity.
[/ul][ b]Other Factors:**
General Comments/Congratulations/Venting/Commiserations,etc: WOOT. This is awesome.</p>
<p>Decision: Deferred</p>
<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] Fee Waiver Used?: Nope
[</em>] SAT I (by section): 2400 (single sitting)
[<em>] SAT IIs: 800/780/710 : M2/Chem/USHist
[</em>] GPA, Weighted and Unweighted: 4.0 unweighted, 5.1/6.0 weighted
[<em>] Rank: ~5/550
[</em>] ACT: 36 Composite
[<em>] APs (including this year's): Will have 10 by graduation, Four 5s one 4 so far
[</em>] Number of Apps from Your School: Just Me
[<em>] Other stats (Awards, etc.): a bunch I don't want to post
[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[</em>] ECs listed on app: Piano, Cross country, Speech and Debate, Science olympiad (officer) , Nat. Hon. Soc. Some volunteering, Latin Club and Certamen, High IQ club
[<em>] Job/Work Experience: None
[</em>] Essays (subject and responses): meh, I thought they were decently written but a bit over the top
[<em>] Teacher Recs: Really enthusiastic and laudatory, one was riddled with words like "brilliant"
[</em>] Counselor Rec: nice but poorly written
[<em>] Interview (feel, interviewer and general location): None
[</em>] Hook (TASP, RSI, Research, etc.): Not Asian? no hook
[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[<em>] State or Country: North Carolina
[</em>] School Type, Average Stats of School (if available): Pretty good and large public school, my grade is really competitive (we could send a lot of kids to Ivy league, but our students tend to settle for really solid state schools. 3-4 kids ann. to places like Duke or Ivy, but around 60 to schools like Chapel Hill)
[<em>] Ethnicity: White
[</em>] Gender: M
[<em>] Income Bracket: >100,000
[</em>] Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): non
[<em>] Strengths: apparently none
[</em>] Weaknesses: Apparently a lot haha
[li] Why you think you were accepted/deferred/denied: Yale was too busy letting in a bunch of legacies. and and all the really qualified CCers[/li][/ul]Other Factors:
General Comments/Congratulations/Venting/Commiserations,etc: umm, hurrah for Harvard. Yale wasn't my first choice anyway. But in all seriousness, congrats to all admitted and generic sympathetic response to all in my boat.</p>
<p>Olsb25 - does your school offer Multivariable Calc/Diff Eq?
If not where did you take it?
I am just wondering, because our school does not offer courses above AP Calc AB and AP Stat and my brother will complete these courses before his senior year.</p>
<p>need advice, I'm taking Multivariable Diff Calc right now through Stanford's EPGY course (I don't like it at all-there's no instructor, just a series of lectures, a textbook, and three 3-hr tests, but that's my opinion, and it's an option). Also, many local colleges should have Calc III (which would be what comes after BC calc) or Calc II (I guess would be similar to BC). (I wasn't allowed to enroll in those classes because of age issues, but most colleges won't be so silly as to care about age since it's not like they're admitting you to the college). I do get credit for EPGY, and as to the local college thing-you'd have to arrange for credit either with the college or your own high school can get it on your transcript.</p>
<p>Decision: Deferred</p>
<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] SAT:800 CR 790 M 720 W - 2310(It's now a 2360 combined.. writing went up to a 770)
[</em>] SAT IIs: 800 Math IIC 760 Chem 690 Lit
[<em>] GPA:3.89/4.27
[</em>] AP: Our school doesn't really offer too many.. maybe 8 or 9 offered, 4-5 taken. I took Calc BC AP exam: 5 Chem: 3 :(
[<em>] IB: Not offered
[</em>] Senior Year Courseload: AP Bio, AP Gov, AP Lit, Wind Ensemble, Jazz Ensemble ... I'm taking Spanish 5 at a local community college next semester
[<em>] Number of apps from your High School: Three... All deferred.
[</em>] Rank: Doesn't rank, but my rank's not very high.. VERY competitive school
[<em>] Other stats: All-Star Youth Orchestra (jazz), National Merit Semifinalist, Spanish Honor Society, QuestBridge Semifinalist
[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[</em>] ECs listed on app: Intern at a hospital for two summers, Treasurer/Activities Manager in a club, Co-founder of the Canton Club (for Chinese people), Marching Band for 4 years (section leader for 2), Jazz Band for two years, first chair for two years. And the all-star band as well.
[<em>] Job/Work Experience: None
[</em>] Essays: I thought they were good then, but I gave them a second read.. and I didn't like them too much. No voice. My first was about my re-audition for jazz band my sophomore year, because I was actually rejected at first. The supp was about being mixed.
[<em>] Teacher Recs: Pretty good, I think. I had 3: One excellent, one REALLY excellent, one that praised me a lot but didn't back it up.<br>
[</em>] Counselor Rec: She REALLY liked me!
[<em>] Interview: I did it at this funky little coffee shop that I chose. It was AMAZING. They usually play spunky rock music but at the time I had my interview, they were playing my favorite jazz pianist. I even struck up a conversation about the pianist with the waiter, and that's how my interviewer found me. It was picture perfect - I really don't think I could ever have a better interview than that. She LOVED me.
[</em>] Hook (if any): I'm half Chinese half Pakistani. I'm also a first generation college student, but Yale doesn't know that because I thought foreign universities count. Apparently if your parents got anything below or different than an American BS degree, it doesn't count.
[<em>] Income Bracket: Upper middle or middle upper.. I forget
[</em>] Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): I am technically a first generation college student but Yale doesn't know that. I didn't know until AFTER I submitted my app that if you're parents didn't get an American BS Degree or higher, it doesn't count. My dad went to college in Pakistan, and my mom has an associate's degree. And we're upper middle or middle upper class. Talk about a success story.
[<em>] Strengths: Mixed heritage? Clear passion for music, great interview
[</em>] Weaknesses: Essays, not as many ECs as some other people..
[li] Why you think you were accepted/deferred/denied: Essays[/li][/ul][ b]Other Factors:[ /b]
General Comments/Congratulations/Venting/Commiserations,etc:[ /b]
I wasn't really expecting to get in EA, but it sucked nonetheless. I think it was the essays that did it for me. At least I hope so, because I can send in some more! I had an amazing interview too. We really hit it off, and my interviewer looked like she really wanted me to go to Yale. I just started the high school jazz society, and my SAT scores went up. Hopefully my chances will go up once I tell Yale about all the new developments!</p>
<p>Shobit,
Like you, my S got deferred from Brown PLME and he is RD for Yale too.
Good luck to all RDs!</p>
<p>Good luck sofia. : )</p>
<p>Did only one CCer get rejected SCEA?</p>
<p>I don't remember anyone getting rejected.</p>
<p>it's on the first page</p>
<p>Well, the rejected % did go down a bit this year.</p>
<p>Is it just me or are Yale's SAT scores amazingly high (even compared to Stanford and Harvard SCEA)</p>
<p>Yes, they are very high and the competition has been fierce this year. Yale is probably trying to increase their ranking, as Princeton pulled up against Harvard and Yale in the U.S. News and World Report.</p>
<p>[ size=+2][ color=blue][ b]Decision: Accepted[ /b][ /color][ /size]</p>
<p>[ b]Stats:[ /b][ list]
[ *] Fee Waiver Used?: nope
[ *] SAT I (by section): 760 M, 800 CR, 800 W
[ *] SAT IIs: 800 USH, 800 IIC, 800 Chem
[ *] GPA, Weighted and Unweighted: 4.0, 4.7
[ *] Rank: top 3
[ *] ACT: n/a
[ *] APs (including this year's): 11 total...taken 7 exams, all good scores
[ *] IBs (including this year's: not offered
[ *] Senior Yr Courseload: All AP's + online course
[ *] Number of Apps from Your School: 1 other, I think...
[ *] Other stats (Awards, etc.):Nat'l Merit, AP Scholar w/ Distinction, School academic awards, AIME, Natl Chem Olympiad
[ /list][ b]Subjective:[ /b][ list]
[ *] ECs listed on app: Speech and Debate (leadership, Natl + state recognition), several choirs, Editor-in-Chief of school paper, political stuff, leader of a couple minor clubs, violin
[ *] Job/Work Experience: House page, Intern at local uni
[ *] Essays (subject and responses) good, I guess...about politics and how it's affected me
[ *] Teacher Recs: good!
[ *] Counselor Rec: good!
[ *] Interview (feel, interviewer and general location): I loved my interviewer...she was verrrry nice and we had a lot in common!
[ *] Hook (TASP, RSI, Research, etc.): none that I know of...
[ /list][ b]Location/Person:[ /b][ list]
[ *] State or Country: Midwest
[ *] School Type, Average Stats of School (if available): public, competitive (lots of kids to top schools)
[ *] Ethnicity: white
[ *] Gender: F
[ *] Income Bracket: upper-middle
[ *] Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): Legacy
[ *] Strengths: nothing out of the ordinary...ECs, test scores, legacy
[ *] Weaknesses: again, nothing out of the ordinary...non-URM from sort-of-overrepresented area...
[ *] Why you think you were accepted/deferred/denied: a combination of factors I don't understand lollll...prolly legacy kicked in to help me!!
[ /list][ b]Other Factors:[ /b]
[ b]General Comments/Congratulations/Venting/Commiserations,etc:[ /b] Haha it took me a while to post this...I've been too busy!!! I'm still super-excited to get in...good luck to everyone!! It's been a crazzzy year for admissions!</p>
<p>Decision: Accepted</p>
<p>Stats:</p>
<pre><code>* Fee Waiver Used?: No
* SAT I (by section): 770 M, 770 R, 800 W (one sitting)
* SAT IIs: 770/750/730 : US History, Math II, Literature
* GPA, Weighted and Unweighted: 4.0 unweighted, 4.7/5 weighted
* Rank: Top 5% (official), somewhere around 2/460 unofficially
* APs (including this year's): US History 5, Calc AB 5, French 3, Physics C Mech 5, Still to take: Macro, Micro, English, GovPol, Calc BC, French Lit, Chem
* Number of Apps from Your School: Three, including me
* Other stats (Awards, etc.): National Merit Semi-Finalist
</code></pre>
<p>Subjective:</p>
<pre><code>* ECs listed on app: Fed Challenge (Second in Nation) Competing Team, Mock Trial (State Champions, Fourth in Nation) Lead Attorney, Model UN/Congress President (Five Awards from Conferences, Founder of Edible Schoolyard (a food-based community service project), French Club President, Literary Magazine, Varsity Fencing freshman and sophomore year
* Job/Work Experience: None
* Essays (subject and responses): One on economics, specifically, learning that the minimum wage is bad, and how that changed my world view; that one was very good. My other was on the Edible Schoolyard; it was fine, solid, but nothing fantastic
* Teacher Recs: Excellent- one was by my German teacher, and was sort of blandly enthusiastic, but definitely good, and the other was by my History Teacher and MUN advisor, and was really specific and long and very, very good ie "One of the best students I have ever had"
* Counselor Rec: Superlative- very, very enthusiastic, and knows me well
* Interview (feel, interviewer and general location): I felt good- I had a lot in common with my interviewer, and felt like I connected with him. It was in a nice cafe/breakfast place in my town, busy and loud.
* Hook (TASP, RSI, Research, etc.): National Recognition in two Extracurriculars, Started Own Community Service Project, New Jersey Scholars Program
</code></pre>
<p>Location/Person:</p>
<pre><code>* State or Country: New Jersey
* School Type, Average Stats of School (if available): A strong public school with a close connection to Yale. We sent 5 kids there last year, and send around 2 in an average year
* Ethnicity: White
* Gender: M
* Income Bracket: >200,000
* Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): none
* Strengths: Good SATs, Very Good Transcript, Great ECs
* Weaknesses: AP Scores and SAT IIs were mediocre
* Why you think you were accepted/deferred/denied: Um I don't know- I guess I had some sort of unique activities, and my counselor was really pushing for me, and positioned me as a real intellectual
</code></pre>
<p>Other Factors:
General Comments/Congratulations/Venting/Commiserations,etc: I'm really excited- all the people I've met who go there and who were accepted seem awesome, and I'm almost certain I'm going there.</p>
<p>need advice: Just saw your post, sorry it took so long. My school has a special "math and science academy" which entails all students having taken Algebra I before high school, so if you have taken geometry before HS also, you finish AP Calc in junior year. Then, your options are AP Stat, or, if you're like me and wish to die, can take AP Physics C and Multi/Diff, which are team-taught, back to back in the same classroom. What sucks is that you can't take one without the other, but the fact that they are team-taught makes it real flexible with time spent on different concepts.</p>
<p>Can anyone confirm my (depressing) seat-of-the-pants estimate/observation?</p>
<p>A quick reading of this thread leads me to believe that, of those who have posted here, a goodly number of those ranked from 1st-3rd in their classes were deferred... But, contrariwise, it looks as if no one who was accepted (aside from 2-3 URM applicants) was ranked below top 5% of the class, in cases where schools do rank.</p>
<p>Does that seem accurate, according to the CC posters' non-random self-sampling and reporting? Were any accepted applicants (non-URM & from schools that do rank) below their graduating class's top 5% ?</p>
<p>Does anyone know whether (for Yale) there is a significant difference in acceptances versus class ranking for RD decisions as opposed to ED decisions? Or any "forgiveness" factor for class rank for ED deferees? (Did that make sense?)</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>BonneFille, the academic caliber of the students accepted this year is astounding. Their SAT scores and their class rank/GPA are all extremely good (2350+, 4.0 uw or top 1 or 2 rank).</p>
<p>But this is only a broad generalization from a small sample. Doesn't really reflect the total EA admissions as a whole.</p>