Just an invitation to parents of Class of 2017. We’d love to have you stop by the parents thread and introduce yourselves if you aren’t already there:
Sometimes we even talk about things other than test scores. 
@payn4ward Where do I find the user %? I’m looking at the printed paper report and only see the national % near the score. I tried logging into the CB account and the site is down. Once its back up, where should I look for the User %?
Thanks!
These predictions are more speculative than chance me threads haha
@suzyQ7 You can find your user% on the on-line report. It will be listed just below your national %.
@suzyQ7 Only on the on-line report. There are two %ile numbers each for E+W, M, and total.
Looking at your scores, I think it will be both 99% across board so no need to look 
Earlvandorn, are the percentiles in your table User Percentiles or National Representive percentiles as sometimes
the User percentiles are a point lowr
Have you guys seen this yet:
http://collegeadmissions.testmasters.com/update-psat-scores-cut-national-merit-2016/
After going through this exercise of data collection and discovering inconsistencies,
I am concluding that this “percentile” will not help us arrive at the SI cutoff.
Neither sample national %ile nor user %ile corresponds to the ACTUAL junior test taker %iles, thus we cannot use them to estimate SI %ile or cutoff.
http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/discussion/comment/19163529/#Comment_19163529
According to the Testmasters link posted,
“The cutoff is still defined as the top ½% per state.”
This is just wrong. The cutoff is not defined as a percentile.
To calculate the cutoff:
Step 1: divide the number of graduating seniors in a state by the number of graduating seniors in the US:
Step 2: Multiply the fraction obtained in Step 1 by 16,000. This gives the number of NMSF awards available for that state.
Step 3: Give the awards out, from highest SI going down. The cutoff is the SI of the student who gets the last available award.
To know the cutoff, you have to know the number of awards available for a state, and also the top scores for that state. These numbers are not percentiles.
State: Arizona
Score: 1500
RW: 750 M: 750
R:37 W:38 M:37.5
SI: 225
- Maryland
- SCORES 1450 Total Score 720 Evidence-Based Reading and Writing 730 Math
35 Reading
37 Writing and Language
36.5 Math
National % 99 Reading and Writing, 99 Math
User % 99 Reading and Writing, 98 Math
NMSC 217
- YES received Telluride invite email in Dec 2015
- AZ
- Total: 1490 Sections: R/W= 740 Math= 750 Test: R= 37 W= 37 M= 37.5 Index: 223 Percentiles?: 99th for all
- No?
Hope this helps!
PSAT score and NMSF Selection Index are computed using different formulas. Therefore, there is not a one-to-one correspondence between the 2 numbers. The PSAT score calculation gives twice as much weighting to the M subscore:
PSAT = 10 * ((2*M) + V + CR)
NM S.I. = 2 * (M + V + CR)
I have crunched the different combinations of subscores and determined that these are the possible ranges of the numbers:
PSAT | NMSF Selection Index range
1200 | 176 - 184
1210 | 178 - 186
1220 | 178 - 188
1230 | 180 - 190
1240 | 180 - 192
1250 | 182 - 194
1260 | 182 - 196
1270 | 184 - 198
1280 | 184 - 200
1290 | 186 - 202
1300 | 186 - 204
1310 | 188 - 206
1320 | 188 - 208
1330 | 190 - 208
1340 | 192 - 210
1350 | 194 - 210
1360 | 196 - 212
1370 | 198 - 212
1380 | 200 - 214
1390 | 202 - 214
1400 | 204 - 216
1410 | 206 - 216
1420 | 208 - 218
1430 | 210 - 218
1440 | 212 - 220
1450 | 214 - 220
1460 | 216 - 222
1470 | 218 - 222
1480 | 220 - 224
1490 | 222 - 224
1500 | 224 - 226
1510 | 226
1520 | 228
S.I. | PSAT score range
190 | 1230 - 1330
192 | 1240 - 1340
194 | 1250 - 1350
196 | 1260 - 1360
198 | 1270 - 1370
200 | 1280 - 1380
202 | 1290 - 1390
204 | 1300 - 1400
206 | 1310 - 1410
208 | 1320 - 1420
210 | 1340 - 1430
212 | 1360 - 1440
214 | 1380 - 1450
216 | 1400 - 1460
218 | 1420 - 1470
220 | 1440 - 1480
222 | 1460 - 1490
224 | 1480 - 1500
226 | 1500 - 1510
228 | 1520
LOL @GMTplus7 … you speak to me with your number crunching!! If you want to join me at the engineering office, send me a resume.
@GMTplus7 I am aware of that of which you write. That’s why I included the separate columns for verbal and math, idea being that people could add the verbal twice, the math once and divide by 10. It’s really hard to “eyeball” percentiles when scores like these are mixed. All I know is that I’ve seen something like two 95 or 96 percentile scores joined together to make a 99th percentile score. Why? Because most people on that test who scored really high on one subject area wouldn’t do so hot on the other.
So it’s just hard. If I had some kind of database it would be easier!
ha ha! thanks for the vote of confidence, but you might not be able to afford my day rate.
@aron - are you sure that a 35 reading is 99th percentile? My DD’s report shows 35 reading as 98th national, 97th user percentile.
I uploaded a picture of her report to imgur… See picture of her report:
http://imgur.com/xgOKUp7
@gmtplus7 You’re probably right about your exorbitant rates. The skills are obvious! =D>