Shipman Scholars?

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<p>The Shipman award itself is close to a full scholarship for in-staters (17-18K per year), but not for out-of-state. Usually the nomination comes with an extra award, though. For out-of-state, it's 20K per year; instate it's 10K per year. </p>

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Sorry to digress from the topic of Shipman Scholars folks, but I feel that it is important to warn students not to try to "fetch" praise from colleges and universities, especially with a "honor" like RSI alternate which isn't backed up with some major science/math competition or research awards.

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honestly, what is the big hype about writing "Research Science Institute - Alternate" in the honors list on the app?
Let's see what other, more common "honors" people place on their apps.
National Merit SemiFinalist
Junior Year Book Awards (eg Bausch and Lomb, Harvard Book Club, Yale Book Award etc)
maybe... winning local or state-level essay contests, speech contests
There was a topic on CC about telling colleges about nomination for Presidential Scholars (which is based SOLELY on SAT scores)
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<p>All of these would be considered "honors" that seek to "fetch" praise from colleges because they require some to no work to obtain. Can you justify removing all of these from the list? An Rsi application requires the same amount of work as an essay contest. Gee..maybe we should all just leave the "honors" section blank because we might be perceived as fishing for compliments. </p>

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the only reason RSI made you an alternate is probably because you had high SAT scores and laudatory teacher recs, both of which the colleges you apply to have access to anyway.

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<p>sonar's statement had nothing to do with placing RSI-alt on the college app anyway. It was a shortened way of saying your stats, ECs etc make you an above average Michigan admittee - this was corroborated by RSI admissions, which is highly respected. the end. And, my opinion? That corroboration in and of itself is reason enough to place it on a college app.</p>

<p>But like I said before the time warp: I'll simply assume if/when I'm rejected from Harvard, Yale, MIT, and Columbia that it wasn't because i was underqualified, but because they laughed when I told them I was waitlisted at the most prestigious summer program in the country.</p>

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<p>Poor me, still waiting on a scholarship. Sigh.</p>

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<p>R they still sending em out??? And does receiving the LSA scholarship hurt my chnaces of possibly getting Shipmans...ie they want to spread out as many scholarships as possible?</p>

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And does receiving the LSA scholarship hurt my chnaces of possibly getting Shipmans...ie they want to spread out as many scholarships as possible?

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<p>I don't think so (obviously I'm not really sure), but I've seen several people with both. I also have both (actually the engineering scholarship.)</p>

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<p>So who's actually going to Shipman Weekend? I'm still trying to figure out if I'm gonna go or not so I'm curious about other people's opinions on it.</p>

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<em>takes a moment to applaud</em> That's brilliant use of sarcasm there LadyinRed, and I would try my own hand at subtle mockery, but I fear that I will fail as compared to your awesome ability. </p>

<p>Why should I ever downplay "RSI alternate", I mean, MIT adcoms basically ascertained that you have scientific potential and that you are a very intelligent and insightful woman. After you found out that you had "scientific ability" according to RSI, I'm sure you went on to place high at Siemens and Intel right? I mean I'm sure the judges just handed away scholarship money and the audience cheered like crazy when you went on stage and mentioned that you were an "RSI alternate".</p>

<p>Oh yea, why the hell would HYPS laugh at you when they see "RSI alternate" on your apps. When you applied Harvard EA this year, I'm sure you were the first applicant they considered after they were WOWED by your RSI waitlisted status. I mean come on, you were waitlisted by the msot prestigious summer program in the country, I hear Dean Fitzsimmons and Mr. Summers are on their wway to New Hampshire to greet you personally and congratulate you on thsi great honor. Maybe, if you really work the PR well, you might get President Bush to acknoledge your grand achievment in the State of the Union Address tomorrow baby. If you think about it, it will probably be the greatest moment in American Desi history.;)</p>

<p>Psh, don't even bother refuting this post because I'm sure tetrahedr0n will come waltzing along with his invaluable Troy ghetto knowledge and insightful knowledge about RSI, as a "failed" Rickoid himself which grants him ultimate authority to worship the program to infinity and beyond, in order to defend you.</p>

<p>Good luck LadyinRed, your life sounds appealingly hot.:)</p>

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<p>EAD, you are obviously very jealous. I can see why too. I mean, Ladyinred, at the very worst, is getting a free-ride to one of America's top 15 universities. There's no reason to be ashamed dude, I'd be pretty envious of her too.</p>

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All the other honors you mention are actual HONORS and you somehow, indirectly or directly, have to do something arguably special to earn.

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<p>I'll respond to this, since the rest of your post assumes that I think being an RSI alternate will alone get me into (or tip me in to) college; if I thought that, then you'd be right. But just because it's unlikely to make a difference in the overall decision doesn't make it not worth the four words on the application.</p>

<p>As for this statement you made above....it's just completely false. NMS requires taking one 3 hour test. Presidential Scholars, same thing (now a 5 hour test). Junior Year Book Awards are literally handed out to students in the school with high GPAs. Essay contests require the same amount of work as the RSI application which includes essays as well. </p>

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Good luck LadyinRed, your life sounds appealingly hot

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<p>yeah, at the moment... it does.</p>

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<p>Guys, please - get over it. EAD - get a life! If you want to continue your jealous posting, create a new thread! Then, those of us that actually CARE about Shipman Scholarships could actually READ about Shipman Scholarships! Enough already! LadyinRed, we all can see that you are very accomplished, and why, oh why, do you feel it necessary to defend yourself? I think Alexandre summed it up pretty well, don't you? Move on, people!</p>

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<p>BTW, regarding 7th floor South Quad--it's nice. A friend rooms with a Shipman guy, and he says it's the second largest room style on campus.</p>

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<p>Mom of three: hehe.....I don't know; natural reaction I guess. I'll stop. </p>

<p>I wonder what they ask at the Shipman interviews....is it similar to a college alumni interview or what?</p>

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<p>Yeah Alexandre, I'm pretty jealous of LadyinRed for getting a free-ride to one of America's top 15 colleges. I mean, last year, only 25 seniors got a full-ride to the University of Michigan from my in-state school last year so it's quite an impressive achievment indeed.;)</p>

<p>Alexandre, you're a little behind on the times man. I know students with criminal records and current drug dealers who get int oU of M quite easily. I guess it al just adds to U of M's "diversity".</p>

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<p>That's truly amazing EAD, considering the fact that Michigan gives out only 50 Shipman awards annually and all other full-tuition scholarships availlable to Freshmen are for </p>

<p>1) children who's parents are dead alumns
2) children who's parents are in the military
3) URMs. </p>

<p>As a matter of fact, altogether, only 100 students get a free-ride based on merit. Most of those students who are do not fall into the categories I listed above are students are ranked in the top 2% of Michigan's class. In other words, students with close to 1600 SAT/36 ACT scores, 4.0 unweighed GPA and Valedictorian or Salutorian status. Most of those students have multiple offers from several of Michigan's peers, including Harvard.</p>

<p>And your comment about Michigan accepting crimminals is truly pathetic. In a recent survey of crimes at America's top 20 universities, Michigan came in 14th. Yale was #1 and Stanford and MIT were among the top 5. Brown, Northwestern and Harvard all had more crime than Michigan. In my 4 years at Michigan, I never met a student with a criminal background. Either you hang out with a seedy bunch that lied to you about being admitted into Michigan (criminals tend to lie quite a bit) or you are yourself not saying the truth.</p>

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<p>Whoa, Alex, UM certainly has its share of criminals. Just look at the football team: Marlon Jackson, Jeremy Lesueur, and Todd Howard are some of the more notable ones. You can see more at <a href="http://www.cracksmoker.com/NCAAF/NCAAF%20Michigan.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.cracksmoker.com/NCAAF/NCAAF%20Michigan.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>Maguo, that's not the point. All universities have crimminals. The point is, as a ratio of students, Michigan has fewer crimminals than most universities. EAD made it sound like Michigan was worse than other schools.</p>

<p>And by the way Maguo, athletes always get into trouble. That's the problem with Division I sports.</p>

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<p>Hello? Shipman scholarship thread? Are you there?</p>

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<p>this is annoying..I can't book plane tickets for March yet because my parents can't decide whether or not they want to go with me. lol</p>

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<p>I wish that those that received the invite, and KNOW for sure that they definitely AREN'T attending, would let admissions know, so that more invites could be sent out...I am thinking (hoping) that more invites will be sent...</p>

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<p>Yahoo - she got the Shipman invite today!! LadyinRed or Alexandre - you seem to be the most knowledgeable about this - since she received the LSA Scholarship in the amount of $20,000 per year (that letter came first), and now has received the Shipman invite, is it true that she will get an ADDITIONAL $25,000 per year? Or is the LSA Scholarship part of the Shipman package, and just happened to come a few days earlier than the Shipman invite? The first letter doesn't mention anything whatsoever about Shipman...anyone?</p>

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<p>I'm almost positive they're separate scholarships. So she's getting 45 K per year plus the other scholarships she's received. When I first got the Shipman letter and then the LSA Schol within the next few days, my mother suggested the same thing - that is, the LSA Schol and the Shipman nominee money were the same scholarship...
but The contact people are completely different and the $25 K is offered only to shipman nominees whereas the LSA scholarships are offered to others as well. Because the money is coming from two different offices, I'm pretty sure she gets an >additional< $25K per year. I'm in the same position, so I'm sure hoping I'm right! :) Congrats to your daughter!</p>