@AhmedAY Where have you been accepted so far?
@Holistic2 Not a single Ivy League school has admitted a single student that was not qualified. Just because a student doesn’t fit into the “perfect student” stereotype, doesn’t mean that they do not bring something invaluable to campus. I would actually argue that a strong cultural background and unique experiences would qualify someone to solve the world’s problems more than a test score. And that’s what these universities are trying to do. They aren’t accepting students. They are accepting revolutionaries. And if your peers have shown that at a young age, they have already made a global impact and all you bring to the table is a perfect ACT score and MUN, then the choice is clear. That isn’t diminishing the quality of the school. That is increasing it.
Also, holistic review wasn’t at all what we were discussing. We were discussing the morality of a student purposely applying to multiple highly selective school, while being fully aware that they will turn most down if accepted.
@crimsondream22 Fantastic. Can you pls share your stats in detail?
@iamtheluckiestgirl check out Harvard EA results thread; I think my stats are on reply #10
welp i feel honored to have had my application be seriously considered lol fingers crossed @EPFutbol
I got interviews everywhere except Stanford. Does anyone know people who got accepted without an interview?
I’ve got computer science projects and a math exam next week but Stanford decisions come out soon and I am procrastinating hard by refreshing this thread haha :'D
^ to bros20000 I’m on the exact same boat
@crimsondream22 Found it. Very impressive indeed. Found major emphasis on life story. Can you share that? Just
curious… nothing to do with admissions.
Hey guys! Please post your stats, and if you got an interview (for those who are admitted tn).
Also, what time PST/EST should we be expecting the decisions to come out?
@bonjourthisisme Decisions come out at 4pm PST aka 7pm EST
@LondonVall, That is a bold statement about no Ivy has ever admitted a single student that was not qualified. Unless you think ability to buy your way into an Ivy by donating millions of dollars is somehow a “qualification” to be admitted, or for that matter having a legacy connection can somehow make up for less than stellar academics… I am aware of specific situations were such seat purchases/legacy admits for less qualified candidates have happened and no Ivy will ever admit to it openly - hence Harvard fighting tooth and nail to protect the admission records in the lawsuit.
Students applying to multiple highly selective schools is very much a result of the so-called “holistic” admissions process. When the criteria for admissions cannot be quantified and there are a lot of qualitative factors in play, one has to take their chances and apply to as many reach schools as financially and time-wise possible.
I’m over here in good old Maryland thinking that decision time is at 4pm EST and not PST. :))
@LondonVall and @Holistic2 this is an exceptionally honest article about the realities of admissions. I believe its true for most Ivys too. https://www.stanforddaily.com/2013/03/12/connections-to-university-can-affect-admissions-decision/
@js7234 Go find something fun to do for 3 more hours!
@iamtheluckiestgirl Thank you!! I hope it’s understandable that I don’t feel like it’d be a sane idea to share one’s story so publicly on a platform like this. PM me (if interested)?
@Holistic2 Once again, just because a student doesn’t fit into the “perfect student” stereotype, doesn’t mean that they are not qualified. Those students who “bought” their way in, made it through their programs and are off to great things. They obviously could handle the curriculum. Besides, the input of some billionaire kid who lives a life that most of us can only dream of seems pretty invaluable to me.
I stand by my statement. Every student admitted is qualified. You may not see it, but the team of highly skilled and professional scholars that make up the admissions board does. The Ivies get to literally choose from the greatest students in the world. They never have a drought of qualified people to choose from.
And it’s cool that you found a way to make your topic somewhat adjacent to our original one, but once again, that’s not what we were discussing. If you want to rant about holistic review, then do so. But don’t try to pass it off as being on topic.
@dowzerw I am stuck in a car ride on the way to Charlotte, NC for spring break so I get to be in a car for a couple more hours with my girlfriend and parents :((
@js7234 You can’t escape! Maybe step away from your electronics and be in the moment w your GF and her fam. Hopefully you will stop for dinner and that will help kill time. (You are starting spring break late.)
Good luck!
@LondonVall, I guess being “qualified” in your books means being able to pass a minimum threshold. By that token, if you are in the Olympics qualifiers, it should be perfectly ok to take the 32nd seeded player into the final race that can hold only 8. Afterall, the fact that the 32nd seeded runner could run the race is “qualifying” enough. But for the 8th seeded player who could not get in, would you say that he/she was not “qualified” or would you say “we had too many qualified candidates that we regret to inform you that you were not selected”. Keep in mind both are lies.
You have a right to your opinion, but I stand by my statement that Ivies are not infallible in who they choose to “field” as their freshman class. It is this unpredictability that is driving more students to apply to more selective schools. And the successful ones do get into more than one. Perhaps the distinction is between “qualified students” and the “most qualified students” - keeping in mind that there is quite a bit of subjectivity in the latter assessment. DD has 12 admits on hand 8 of them in the top 20 reach schools (per US News ranking), so this is not a bitter person talking.
PS: I was trying to defend your position about why kids are applying to multiple reach schools and state that they should not be the ones to be blamed for the trend but the selection process itself. This is the last from me on this topic.