Students from North - Comfortable at Southern Schools?

@dlcohen the NYC schools are segregated. The top public high schools require an exam to get in and there is private schools too. Wealth is the reason why there is segregation in NYC schools. I live on Long Island and my public school is one of the most diverse schools on Long island and it is one of the smallest too. My school is rare for a long island school as other schools are either all upper class or all lower class.

@HRSMom I also have to remember that no matter what school is discussed, there will always be some students that just don’t end up liking it for some reason or another. They were homesick, couldn’t make friends easily or what have you - and that sometimes they may point to cultural differences as the reason. But in general I would like to think my D can and will handle that fine :slight_smile:

@mom2collegekids I guess that’s true of everyplace. I think many people have an image of New Englanders living on the coast, boating and eating lobster, or attending snooty prep schools, or everyone from CA can surf! Important to debunk all of those regional stereotypes (although of course they exist because there is some truth to them).

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Easy enough for the South. Fried anything LOL

lol @StressingMom one of the reasons why I want to go to school in the south. Although I will miss NY Pizza and bagels.

@BatesParents2019 yes the slave market - we saw it too! I think it’s important to have it there and to point out its significance from a historical perspective. Sort of a “never forget” reminder. As long as it is presented honestly and not in a whitewashed manner. We went to a plantation where the remaining slave cabins were all cleaned up and used to display information about the path to freedom and the civil rights movement. I thought they should have included more info on the actual experience of being a slave and the atrocities that were associated with that.

Oh heavens, or the tea…like sugar water! I always forget and order it!

I remember moving to NY and ordering coffee with milk. the guy says regular? uh, yeah, regular milk is fine…? PS regular is milk and sugar! yuk!

I think your D can find many colleges in the south that fit her. I think, once you have your basic list, that focusing on the other “fit” factors will help with the decision. The more the college fits her academically, socially, family finances, and her interests,the more she will feel like it is a fit.

The south is diverse, more so than the media portrays. In some areas, and some universities- Duke, UNC, the culture is predominantly liberal, while some rural colleges are likely to be predominantly conservative. Each college will also have a distinct culture as well. It seems as if your family is flexible enough, and not significantly aligned politically to either side that your D will find colleges that would fit her in the south. The political climate of a college might be a more weighted consideration for someone who felt strongly aligned to one side or the other, but since colleges in the south tend to have a mix of students, someone like your D will likely find a niche.

The colleges I mentioned would all be places where your D would feel accepted. I think that once you have made a list of the ones that fit best, a road trip to see them would be very helpful. It would be some driving, but some are not too far from each other to drive over several days.

A college that comes to mind is Furman. It’s a gorgeous campus and Greenville SC has a lot to offer. There is a nearby lake and I think there is a crew team. It is top notch academically. Their website page on multifaiths includes a Hillel among many other choices, which indicates an openness to diversity in beliefs. I don’t know if it has the major your D is interested in, but keep in mind that students change interests, and a strong liberal arts degree and summer internships can be pathways to a field of interest too.

I will also second Pennylane’s prior mention of Davidson – a beautiful campus, top-notch academics, D-I basketball; and when I was there last year for an admissions tour, there were a good number of folks attending from the northeast.

“We took a tour of Charleston a number of years ago and the guide took us to the place where the slaves were auctioned. I kid you not.”

I should hope so! Ignoring that history would be much more troubling than acknowledging it.

@2016senior There are some NY-style pizza places in the south…you have to know where to find them. In Tuscaloosa we have one that’s a bit off the beaten-path, but worth it.

I know that people say that bagels in NY are different than bagels elsewhere. Since I’m not a NYer, I don’t know the difference. We certainly have bagels in the south, but they may be more similar to what is found in other parts of the country and not NY.

How are NY bagels different from what the rest of US would find at a bagel store?

If you go to a school that it’s a good-sized city, then you’ll have a wide variety of food offerings, not just “southern foods”.

There are different kinds of bagels in New York, some better than others. The thing about NY pizza is that it’s almost always good and available everywhere. There are the slices that you get cheap all over the place, and there are the sit down pizza places that usually have the super thin crusts. The latter I’ve found other places; the former I don’t know if I’ve had outside the 5 boroughs.

^re: bagels, breads, pizza crusts, etc.

I have one friend who claims that the reason the breads in various regions (sourdough in San Francisco, bread for Philly Cheesesteaks, break for Cuban sandwiches, pizza crusts, etc.) are different and can’t truly be duplicated is that the water in each of those regions is slightly different. I have no idea if this argument holds water (ba-dump-dump) or not, but this is his theory.

@hanna. It was not portrayed in the tour like you suggested.

@mom2collegekids Real bagels are boiled first then baked. It is rare to find this outside NY & NJ. Even here the bagel chains make terrible and puffy bagels. Lye bagels are the best.

The water in the south is not good for pizza dough. Too limey and water that’s been through a conditioner is bad too. Pizza dough must proof for at least 24 hours chilled. Two days is best. Also pizza made in an oven that is not at least 800 degrees is not real pizza. 1200 degrees is the classic temperature to make real pizza.

@BatesParents2019 I hope I don’t experience those pizza and bagels at UNCW!!! :-<

You will!!!

@hanna. It was not portrayed in the tour like you suggested.”

Wait, so they took you to a plaza, and didn’t tell you it was the slave auction site? Or they did, but they played it for laughs or something?

It was sort of like you Yankees ruined everything.

Wow.

Yes, Davidson is another to see, near Lake Norman, so there must be rowing ( check as I don’t know much about rowing). Excellent academics, great school, close the Charlotte for access to a major city ( and airport)

Lbad96- I don’t want to disappoint you, but once you have had NY bagels, anything near UNCW is not going to be even close. However, if you like BBQ, you can find some of the best in NC.