<p>...800 maybe?</p>
<p>last year it was 374 the first session and 375 the second session. that's what i remember anyways, but yes, around 800. a little less.</p>
<p>Banglin - I hope I got it right, Your going to be at the Summer leaders seminar too? Maybe you will meet my son there too. Awesome! He is coming home for a few hours in between sessions though. Good luck! I know your parents are proud of you.</p>
<p>What is the title of that thread? I couldnt find it. Its a well know fact that altitude affects aerobic performance. Im not certain what effect in seconds it would have on a one mile run performance. But Im sure the effects would be more dramatic as a persons normal living altitude was decreased.</p>
<p>So what do you guys think the weather is going to be like out there? Can we expect sunny skies or should we expect unpredictable weather? </p>
<p>Also, how much did people's mile or 1 1/2 times change? How much of a loss in time can I expect?</p>
<p>CO Springs weather is always unpredictable. It'll rain one minute and be gorgeous the next. It's the mile that you'll run for the CFA; my time wasn't really affected too much.</p>
<p>At orientation it snowed, was foggy, was sunny, then was warm, in ONE day... so it really is unpredictable. For us last year it was nice most of the time at the seminar. Just check weather.com. </p>
<p>As for running, I actually ran faster up there then I did at home... it was weird.</p>
<p>Yeah, I ran a little slower, maybe 15 seconds or so, but that was because there was a really bad wind for 3/4 of the mile. Running with a strong wind in my face may have slowed me down some, but overall the altitude didn't really effect my mile run. I've heard longer distances get tougher though, especially for sea-level people when they get out of breath.</p>
<p>As for the weather, predict the unpredictable. The weather was weird both times I was on the Hill, and most of the current cadets have said it's almost always like that.</p>
<p>I haven't gotten confirmation for session A except for the video waiver, should I be worried. Also, my mile is around 7:30 and I can only do about 3 pull ups, how do i compare.</p>
<p>Thats not bad, its only summer seminar. Just keep running and keep doing pull-ups, thats really the best way to build up pull ups. I ran a mid six minute mile at SS and could barely do two pull ups lol. My mile probably is much better but I can do a lot more pull ups now</p>
<p>what happens if i can't do a pullup...?</p>
<p>Pull-ups give a lot of girls (and guys) trouble, especially at SS since the real pre-Academy training hasn't usually started. For now, you'll have the option to do the flexed-arm hang. Basically, they start you with your chin above the bar and you just fight gravity and hold yourself up for as long as possible. One pull-up, though, is worth more points than any length of time for the flexed-arm hang. If you are eventually accepted to the Academy and you decide to attend, you'll have to be able to do at least one, which is the minimum for females taking the PFT. Tips for improving your pull-ups can be found here: <a href="http://www.military.com/NewContent/0,13190,Smith_033004,00.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.military.com/NewContent/0,13190,Smith_033004,00.html</a>, among other places. Good luck!</p>
<p>Thanks 07PETKO!
I am going to work hard do that by the time I take the real test that I can do at least 1 (hopefully a lot more). Thanks for the website that will definitely help. Do you think that it will reflect badly on me that for the SS I’m doing the flexed arm hang if I come back for the real test and do pull ups?</p>
<p>No, not at all. Remember, overcoming "weakness" is a good thing... And besides, what you do/did physically at SS is treated as just that, what you do/did at SS. The purpose of Summer Seminar is to help some of the prospective pre-candidates decide if they actually do want to come to USAFA. If you can only do flexed arm hang at SS, that's fine.</p>
<p>But honestly, I think that you should try to do pullups if you can. The only girl in my element (my "group") tried the pullups, even though she didn't know if she could even do one. Although she ended up doing only one, the score for one pullup for females is GREATER than any length of time on the flexed arm hang. The important thing is that you do your best, because THAT'S what they're looking for.</p>
<p>So, try and do pullups if you are comfortable with trying them. Who knows, you might even suprise yourself.</p>
<p>I thought girls were allowed to do the hang in the PFT anyway... hmm sorry sandie. But yeah just working on them helps a lot. I did as many as I could spread out 3 times a day and it REALLY helped. </p>
<p>There was a female gymnast in my element at SS... she did TEN pullups I'm pretty sure she beat all the guys in our element too lol.</p>
<p>lol, there was a MALE gymnast in my element, and he did 18 pullups. Another guy in my element did 19. Almost everyone else did about 10-12, but maybe my element was just special. :)</p>
<p>Falcons, did you go to Session B? I remember that gymnast guy! We all stood around him yelling while he just pumped them out. Insane boys! :)</p>
<p>Don't stress out about seminar, guys. It's a TON of fun, and you'll all be able to handle the level of physical activity. Seminar also will give you a good idea of different exercises the cadre like to use for beast, so you will know specific things to practice, like flutter kicks and mountain climbers. The practice CFA you will take is just that... practice. You won't be able to use it in your actual application for the class of 2012, and it's more just a good checkpoint for you to see where you're at and give you grounds for improvement. And you will improve! Girls, don't stress out about the fact that you can't do pull ups yet. I used to stress about it last summer when I was prepping for the CFA, and it didn't help at all because I set a deadline for myself and then was just completely immobilized because it seemed like an unreachable goal. Just work at it over time, and you WILL get there. In addition to the website PETKO pointed out, I'd recommend that you use the pull up machine at your local gym that allows you to lift a certain percentage of your body weight in a pull up. Work on it daily and gradually work your way up to lifting your full body weight. That's what I did, and now I can do two pull ups! :)</p>
<p>Being a typical girl, I brought way too much stuff to seminar. I didn't realize that they provided PT clothes and a ton of other stuff, so I brought workout clothes for every day of seminar, plus different outfits for every day. Don't do that. :) You'll wear these nifty blue seminar shirts every day that are so huge you could pitch a tent in them, and you'll love it. All you need really is a couple of pairs of jeans (or apparently the tan pants... whatever your list says), a nice outfit for the graduation/dance at the end of the week, toiletries, sleeping bag and pillow, and spending money. For the dance, I just wore a nice skirt and blouse. Advice to girls: don't bring a skanky dress for the dance. You'll look like an idiot, to put it kindly. :) The last full day is a ton of fun, even if the guy-to-girl ratio is a lot more apparent at the dance. Poor boys! ;)</p>
<p>ya have fun guys and good luck on being my classmates for the class of '12.</p>
<p>quick question. WIll my son need to bring any extra t-shirts to USAFA SS to work out in? He apparently could ahve used more than what was issued at the current seminar.</p>
<p>One or two can't hurt, be we had to wear out seminar shirts to PT and change into a clean one for classes. We were given five to wear. I wore the same one or two shirts for PT every day... then just used the rest for the seminars and all</p>