<p>@hb730: Bro, why would we be any different in real life? :)</p>
<p>Inert, i guess your argument holds but I guess i dont need to explain this to you. The SAT is a test of thought and quite obviously cant microcosm an applicants achievements throughout high school but it shows more than anything what the applicant is capable of. Take for example “brazil” he didnt perform well at all in highschool but he sat his SAT’s and did really well in them. Now hes getting into places where people wiht significantly higher grades arnt. </p>
<p>College is all about selling yourself in the right ways. (figuratively speaking that is)</p>
<p>I was so obnoxious of this forum but all is well now. Thanks for welcoming me. Also, @talaltq it’s called “Envy” and I used the word jealousy wrongly in both places.
Thanks once again! :D</p>
<p>waise anyone knows when the admission results for LUMS SSE are coming out? I have heard so much about SSE, it almost feels like I should not be considering studying abroad so seriously! Pakistan is a great place if you know where to look.</p>
<p>@mohammadeht: haha Envy crossed my mind but I figured it’s synonymous with Jealousy 
Anyway, all’s well that ends well :)</p>
<p>As for LUMS, did you apply on SAT basis as an overseas student, or gave the admission test? 
LUMS is supposed to announce the admission decisions in May, but they are known to be off by around a month or two =P LUMS is a great place to be, but the only problem there is that it is in Pakistan, and being in Pakistan means that even going to a mosque for Jumaa is without a guarantee that you would be coming back alive :(</p>
<p>The SSE interview calls should start coming till the end of next week while LCAT decisions will come in May.</p>
<p>@samtjt: Interesting! No interviews for LCAT? Sure? Great! =P</p>
<p>It’s okay to be jealous as long as you don’t mix up jealousy with hatred…</p>
<p>Havy bhai, microcosm is not a verb, and yes, the SAT is a great indicator for future college GPAs, but in special circumstances (such as, I dunno, being a self-made millionaire in high school) the SAT is ignored. Also, I was snooping around on the MIT CC forum, and the admissions dude said that there’s no difference between a 2300 and a 2400. After a certain threshold (and I am only talking about the BEST OF THE BEST colleges here) they don’t really say stuff like “that 2400 is way more impressive than that 2300”. </p>
<p>This forum’s gotten pretty active.</p>
<p>@talaltq</p>
<p>Yeah…I m very sure that there are no interviews for LCAT…I would have been really a hectic task for them to interview b/w 1000-1500 students.The batch for SDBS and school of Humanities is more than 500…</p>
<p>With all due respect to SAT…I still doubt its usefulness…I mean do u give admission on the basis of endurance(the 6 hour torture) and good english?</p>
<p>SAT is what you guys will be experiencing for the 4 years of your college life, believe me! I used to think that SATs were of no use as well. </p>
<p>When three of your professors give you 20 pages of reading each and you have another 2-page paper due by Friday morning, along with that you’re somehow managing a social life while the next mid-terms are right on the corner… you can only wish you were in the SAT days, days which were that simple and laid back.</p>
<p>Harsh reality - things are only gonna get tougher from here… scared? Suck it up, Nancy! :D</p>
<p>Completely agree with you on the SAT issue, Inert.</p>
<p>EDIT: This was in response to Samtjt’s post saying that SATs test endurance and fluency in English.</p>
<p>Actually both of those qualities are essential of you are to succeed at a US college :)</p>
<p>But the SAT does test more. I mean, the math section is too childish to hold any meaning at all, but the fact that they test technicalities of language on the CR and Wr sections can quite easily distinguish the academically serious from the academically non-serious, especially as regards local US applicants where although everyone is fluent in colloquial English, most students have a poorer standard of written English than many international students.</p>
<p>In this regard, the SAT is a very good tool to distinguish between the bad, good and very good. To distinguish between the very good and the excellent, however, is the domain of interviews and essays. (Although US colleges don’t seem to be as focused on academic excellence as do UK universities, and take into account many - to me, irrelevant - factors such as your personality and whether you ‘fit’ with the college. Oxford and Cambridge will judge you wholly and solely on the basis of whether or not you are in love with your subect - and that neither means being a nerd nor being a high scorer on tests and exams. Although Cambridge screwed up this year, and rejected many excellent candidates, perhaps because of the increased flux of applications due to the new scholarships.)</p>
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<p>Lolx…and I thought k CR sa jaan chot jai ge…bt ab lag raha ha that is impossible!</p>
<p>@talaltq: I meant that we wouldn’t be able to recognize each other if we passed by or something.</p>
<p>And as for the SAT issue: it is important, and no matter what colleges say acceptance rates rise almost exponentially in the extremely high ranges. And the math section isn’t as easy as a lot of you say it is: the questions aren’t hard, the wording is. In a way it’s almost another way of testing your English. And of course since grades can mean different things for US students (no standardized A levels and APs aren’t always offered) the SAT helps level the playing field. It is only one part of an app, though, and often the people who score very well are very involved students in their communities as well - and probably also have strong grades. Again, it’s looking at the big picture. And MIT, as we know, has quite a different admissions process than the Ivies. I just wish you all the best in the coming weeks, though- exceptional students almost always stand out in the process. As schools say, it’s making the most of the resources you have that shows your capability to excel at college. Even the SAT is looked at in context.</p>
<p>Yay! =D</p>
<p>Getting good scores in the SAT depends on how good an SAT-test taker you are. I know about people studying in the American system with amazing grades getting 1700s in them, and above average students scoring in the 2000s.</p>
<p>That’s all I want to say; you guys obviously sound more SAT versed by your posts :P</p>
<p>@mushoo</p>
<p>So are u planning to reject oxford?</p>
<p>Sorry to reply so late but I was a little busy today.
Back to LUMS, I applied on the basis of my SAT results to SSE AND SDSB as an overseas student. Does this mean I will have an interview? And when you said off by a month or two, you meant a month or two late or early?
@mushoo Who are you? MIT AND OXFORD! I wonder what else you have got in store, eh?</p>
<p>Actually, Caltech and Oxford. MIT I failed to get into :(</p>
<p>@Samtjt: Not necessarily. I will carefully consider the financial aspects, degree length, university atmosphere etc. before making my decision.</p>
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