Thread for BSMD Applicants 2019

@sajju786 - If you absolutely don’t want to go thru traditional route then take CNU admission. I live in NorCal and know kids that go there. They don’t have traditional UG school so kids don’t get college experience. No one knows how their matching will be and it’s expensive. Which state do you reside>

Even though we are CA residents, my son declined BSMD admissions (BU, RPI/Albany with scholarship) and taking traditional path, so my opinions will be contrary to most folks here :slight_smile:

Thanks @GoldenRock

Thanks @srk2017 we are in IL

@sajju786 IMHO, with his excellent credentials your son, can get much better deal than CNU in BSMD round or via regular UG medical school route. With 35 in ACT, why even apply to CNU (a for profit institution and in process of getting LCME accredition ) ? Most students enter into medical school via traditional UG route (nearly 95%).

Thanks @grtd2010 yes that’s what I am planning, we did apply to Pitt- GAP and he got into Pitt with full scholarship, waiting to hear form GAP program though.

@sajju786 OU program is great for NMF and gives generous merit scholarship. My DD got into the BSMD program but chose to attend a program closer to home. Please do apply.

Thanks @grtd2010 yes will go ahead and apply, we got in mail a brochure form OU explaining that National Merit Scholars do get all 4 yrs undergraduate tuition fees waived.

@sajju786,

OU is a good program but their intake is so low, ~5 or so, hence unpredictable.
Also, you have time to decide on this, but getting full rides (for undergrad) may not necessarily be your criterion for choosing which program to go to, financial conditions permitting. We have had a few students in last year’s thread who had forsaken their full rides at instate and other med schools to go to more renowned ones, even without any scholarships. Also D personally knows this girl from a reputed bio med magnet school who joined her program this year despite being selected in a few direct med programs including a full ride undergrad at a decent in state 7 year program. Anyway you have plenty of time to see how things unravel and decide.

@sajju786 Renowned programs may not be the best choice. For the residency match, USLME step 1 score and what do you do in the MD school that matters. All accredited medical schools typically follow the same curriculum. Look at the residency match for each medical school when time comes. Once you get a MD degree and are board certified in your field, no body cares about the medical school you attended.

Few comments about OU. Take it with a grain of salt.

Each student and their family may have different criteria and priority and hence no shoe fits all.

OU gives 5 years of free tuition* for national merit finalist. Surprisingly that can be used for graduate program also. So we know students who did BS in 2 years and did JD in 3 years. Students 3 years UG and 2 year MBA. Students do UG in 3 years and do MD (and get free tuition for first 2 years and that is 2*60 = $120k saving and may be less than your 4 years in state fees like CA.

OU gives acceptances to 10 students but around 5 to 6 students matriculate. It is not that popular among BS/MD students and hence does not get 2000-3000 apps like NU, BU, CWRU etc and gets around 500 application.

The medical college is 100+ years old and has all specialists and UG school is also decent.

I may be biased, for example I was surprised even now students are eager to join Drexel (though no longer guaranteed) but not that excited about OU.

Both my D and myself not a bit disappointed till today though we took the risk when don't know anything about OU.

  • Lesson learned: Free tuition does not mean you don't shell out anything. There are fees and slowly that increases every year. So roughly $3k or so per year (including R&B). New President and new budget cut from OK state etc., But still it is a super cheap for UG and getting 2 years MD free is icing on the cake.

Thanks @GoldenRock @rk2017 @grtd2010 will go ahead and apply to OU

@sajju786
Sorry just logged in - appears a number of good folks have responded.

A few points:

  • With the unpredictability of BS/MD programs, if there are still programs where you can apply, please do.
  • In my view 8 programs is too less. Personally, I am comfortable with 10-12. (Note: This is my arbitrary number. You comfort level may be different)
  • Suggest giving a look to Stonybrook Scholars for Medicine program (Deadline Jan 15) apart from OU that you are considering.
  • Since your S applied to UIC, you probably are an IL resident. This means outside of IL, most schools will cost you out-of-state tuition. Without scholarships, 7-8 BS/MD can cost anywhere from $400K to $700K. If that may be an issue, I suggest you have conversation with your S about conditions wherein you will accept a BS/MD offer so that he is prepared for his college of choice atleast for the traditional undergrad / med school route.

Re: UPitt GAP, please read the previous comments, especially posts # 736, 739 and 745. Maybe your S is lucky but don’t hold high hopes for it.

@hoop897
From what I have experienced, observed and read, getting into a good state school for traditional undergrad/med school is probably the best bet.
Most “prestigious” schools are what I call “deflator” schools meaning getting an “A” in undergrad is like winning an Olympic medal.
Also, research during undergrad becomes a criteria - you may want to find out which schools provide more opportunities for research.
In addition, be prepared for students taking 1 to 3 gap years to strengthen their profile for med school (atleast a 50% chance that this may happen).

@DSOF20192023 @BigMan1234 @cy2019bsmd

PennState/Jeff deadline has PASSED - it was Nov 1.

@NoviceDad Thank you… My D doesn’t care about prestigious colleges, wanted to go average college where she can get a decent GPA to enter the Med school. We are thinking of Case, Baylor, Emory and Rice… Any advice about these UGs???

@DSOF20192023 Congratulations!

@hoop897
We very much like RICE.
Among the list, Case would be second. Case gives a lot of scholarships.
We did not apply to Baylor mainly due to its location - WACO, TX. Also, believe its undergrad is too easy.
Did not apply to Emory since no BS/MD program. Have no clue about it.

Here is my overall thought process: If you are an “A” student, undergrads like Hofstra, W&J, Baylor may not adequately prepare you for med school as you will find it easy to score an “A” in undergrad.
On the other hand, you also do not want to be in MIT where you will be among >50% of the classes that gets B or C at some point in your undergrad.
You want to go to a school which “stresses” you adequately and getting good grades is also within reach.

Congratulations to all who are seeing movements in their applications.

@hoop897, @NoviceDad,

Regarding Emory - is a great school but used to be notorious for “weed out” courses. Not sure if it still is the case. If one can survive those courses they can be more or less rest assured of finding a good placement in med school portion, including at Emory’s own world renowned med school.
Also read from last year’s posts (which you may want to search) that the school supports almost all of it’s students in their med application process in giving committee letters unlike many of these prestigious schools that manipulate their students’ med school acceptance rates by refusing such letters or recommendations for students who fall a tad below others in their GPA/MCAT levels. I think Emory’s facilities are superlative, supplemented further by the presence of CDC or something right next to or across the campus. Not quite sure of chances of getting any Merit based awards for traditional route, you may want to check their latest common data set.

Thx @NoviceDad and @rk2017. it make sense. Greatly appreciated…