UC Berkeley Haas 2019 Transfer Thread

@sagaciousforever as others said you can’t be missing any of the req for Haas. If you are missing the second English you won’t get in to any UC.

Also, out of curiosity why do you always say “a top 50, 4-year university”. You could just say non-CCC or out of state uni or you could just say the name. We’re all friends here. :slight_smile:

@sagaciousforever Business calculus is perfectly fine as they accept it. However, as others have said, you cannot be accepted to UC Berkeley Haas without completing all prerequisites for the Business Administration major. If you can, try to take the english class and have it listed for this semester. Notify UC Berkeley about the situation if you can, otherwise I’m sorry but there is nothing else you can do.

@Ohm888 @neilsola People believing or were misinformed that they don’t need to complete all pre-reqs is the main reason for denial. As I’m sure you guys already know, for transfer students for fall 2018, out of 1919 applications for transfers, 736 were eligible for admission. This results in a boatload of people’s applications being denied simply because of not taking the classes in the first place, which should be expected.

@Ohm888 @neilsola In the class profile, https://haas.berkeley.edu/undergrad/community/class-profile/

It says that for transfers, the middle 80% GPA range is 3.63-4.0, does this mean that a GPA in that range is competitive for admission?

@GoodAfternoonSir Yes, 80% of the people accepted had a gpa in that range.
Also I dont think they accept business calculus; they need 2 semesters of calculus

@neilsola Oh I’m so sorry, you’re correct! My mind is a bit hazy today I was probably talking about another UC’s requirements. Yes, Business Calculus isn’t allowed.

@GoodAfternoonSir @neilsola Two semesters of business calculus is absolutely accepted by Haas. Trust me, I’ve done my homework. Not to mention that’s what I took to meet the requirements. :slight_smile:

@ashleymp at my CC biz calc is only a 1 semester class and is way easier than normal calculus. I think the UC’s know that so most require at least 2 semesters of calculus. Some econ programs require Calc 3 which you can’t take biz calc for the prereq, you need 1 and 2. So I’m not sure if yours will be accepted, but anyways doesn’t matter to me since I took calc 1 and 2

@Ohm888 I am so sorry that I should have just said I am a non-CC applicant. I did not mean anything negative towards the CC students. The second English class at my current institution won’t transfer, but I did complete the first English requirement.

To be honest, I do not like UC’s second English requirement because they made it so hard for non-CC transfers, and I searched that most private university’s second English class is not transferable to UCs.

That means that you will have to take it at CC during the summer, but if you still get rejected that means you are taking that summer class for nothing.

I sincerely hope the UCs could be like private schools such as USC and Emory, as they are more lenient on pre-req. Even you are missing one or two pre-req, you could still be admitted if they see you as a good fit.

I hope that I can still get accepted, even if I have to spend an extra year of college.

UCs should consider allowing non-CC transfers to complete missing pre-reqs in the summer or before they graduate at a UC. I just do not get why they do not allow it. Wouldn’t that allow them to make more money since those non-CC transfers will be spending extra quarters or even a extra year to graduate?

@GoodAfternoonSir Thank you for letting me know that Business Calculus is fine.

The second English class at my current institution won’t transfer, but I did complete the first English requirement.

To be honest, I do not like UC’s second English requirement because they made it so hard for non-CC transfers, and I searched that most private university’s second English class is not transferable to UCs.

That means that you will have to take it at CC during the summer, but if you still get rejected that means you are taking that summer class for nothing.

I sincerely hope the UCs could be like private schools such as USC and Emory, as they are more lenient on pre-req. Even you are missing one or two pre-req, you could still be admitted if they see you as a good fit.

I hope that I can still get accepted, even if I have to spend an extra year of college.

UCs should consider allowing non-CC transfers to complete missing pre-reqs in the summer or before they graduate at a UC. I just do not get why they do not allow it. Wouldn’t that allow them to make more money since those non-CC transfers will be spending extra quarters or even a extra year to graduate?

@neilsola Let’s be careful not to sound like we’re putting anyone down for taking business calculus just because some find it to be an easier route to take. We’re all working hard to get to the same place. If Haas accepts business calculus then it covers the material needed to be a successful student. And yes, two semesters of business calculus is what Haas accepts, so you are correct in that it all depends on what your CC offers. Most of the UC’s I was personally interested in do accept business calculus, including those seeking an economics major, so it worked out for me. During my application process I did find that UCLA is one school that does not accept business calculus.

@ashleymp I knew I was correct initially. Actually, at my own community college district, Business Calculus was accepted in lieu of the regular STEM orientated Calculus sequence. This year it changed so I don’t know for sure if this is the case for all community college’s and/or their districts. As of now, my entire district does NOT articulate Business Calculus anymore.

So @neilsola and you are both correct to a certain extent. It really depends on the articulation agreements between the community colleges with the UC’s.

@ashleymp Turns out they replaced the Business Calculus option at my school with “Calculus for the Life and Social Sciences” This is split into 2 semesters and accepted by Haas from my community college.

@sagaciousforever I know this is a Haas thread but I just want to point one thing out that’s really important. If you haven’t completed Calculus 1 for USC then you’re not considered competitive for the application process. It’s the only pre-req they have for the Business Administration major at Marshall and not completing that is unfavorably viewed by the admission officers.

I also don’t recommend you spend another year at community college for one class to attend UC Berkeley Haas. I recommend you get into the college’s you’re accepted through and continue your education. Greatness is doing what you can with the hand that you’re dealt. Remember that.

@sagaciousforever if only one English transfers you will not get accepted to any UC. It’s a non-negotiable requirement. Are you sure your second English won’t transfer? Did they tell you that? Two composition courses will transfer, assuming it fits the UC articulation requirements. The CCC comp/critical thinking course is not required if you’re coming from a non-CCC as it isn’t offered anywhere else except at a CCC or some CSUs.

@GoodAfternoonSir Thank you for your words and I really appreciate that. I study at a 4-year university in California, so I did not take any classes from CC except for Intro to Business (transferable to UCB HAAS). I took it the summer before I entered college.

Also, I completed Business Calculus in my freshman year and it is transferable! USC now is my best shot and Emory is probably the second. As for UCs, I just pray if they would accept me because I am missing the second English class.

@GoodAfternoonSir That’s a great point regarding the updated transfer agreements, thank you! What’s accepted this year may not be next year.

@sagaciousforever Honestly, if you do get into USC for Business Administration, I would just forget about the other UC’s except UCLA and UCB. USC is ranked #10 in the nation for undergraduate business https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/business-overall

@Ohm888 https://admissions.berkeley.edu/transfer-courses-by-institution
I checked this website that only my first English composition is transferable.

My school (left) and UCB(right)

ENG 101 ENGLISH COMPOSITION=ENGLISH R1A READING AND COMPOSITION

ENG 300 LANGUAGE THEORY=ESKILLS 00- NOT EQUIVALENT TO READING AND COMPOSITION REQUIREMENT

ENG 306 ADVANCED COMPOSITION=ESKILLS 00- NOT EQUIVALENT TO READING AND COMPOSITION

ENG 380 TOPICS IN LITERATURE=ESKILLS 00- NOT EQUIVALENT TO READING AND COMPOSITION

So that means I have to complete the second English at CC and I just do not get that. Why can’t they allow non-CC transfer to take it at Cal? I would do it even if it takes me an extra quarter to an extra year to graduate. However, simply turning down applicants because of pre-req is just brutal and unreasonable.

@GoodAfternoonSir I hope so too! I did go for Marshall.

USC is my top choice now since I am missing the second English for UCs and I have been in contact with my admission counselor for almost a year.

Did you apply to USC as well?

UCLA does not have business for undergraduate and Business Economics is way more theoretical than Business Administration. But I do agree that UCB HAAS is better than USC Marshall.