What about top publics ??

<p>I'm not familiar with it, so I can't say. Stony Brook has top-notch science programs, which is why I rated it so high. There's probably lots of good public schools people haven't mentioned.</p>

<p>i pick my pubic hair</p>

<p>IMHO,</p>

<ol>
<li>UCB, UVA</li>
<li>UNC</li>
<li>UCLA, Umich</li>
</ol>

<p>will not go any further.</p>

<p>UVA joe-</p>

<ol>
<li>What exactly is the difference at the undergraduate level between UNC and WM? Michigan and WM? Michigan and Wisconsin?</li>
</ol>

<p>I would say that since W&M is so much smaller than UNC, Michigan and Wisconsin, you would get a more intimate undergraduate experience there than the other schools. I think the undergraduate experience at Wisconsin and Michigan are pretty similar as compared to W&M. William & Mary is basically a liberal arts college.</p>

<p>My point was to ask why his list wouldn't "go any further" by bringing those schools up and their relation (and competitiveness) with the above mentioned schools</p>

<p>And where would you put GaTech?</p>

<p>Me? Georgia Tech is one of the best engineering schools, but its U of Georgia counterpart is better in many fields, so I left off both schools. In engineering, however, Georgia Tech beats out most schools.</p>

<p>Yea jkim is right Gatech does belong somewhere among top publics.</p>

<p>How about UCD, UCI, and UCSB?</p>

<p>okay or not responding is fine too.</p>

<p>What about them? :) All of the UC's are top public schools, but I'd put those three on par with SUNY. Each of them has its partucular strengths; Davis is strong in agriculture/biology/pre-vet, for example.</p>

<p>i visited suny binghamton last week and they seem to believe it is tied up there with W&M and wisconsin. What do u guys think?</p>

<p>SUNY-Bing is generally considered the best of the SUNY system. I'd put it on par with Illinois (below W&M but close to Wisc. for ug), but by no means am I an expert. :p</p>

<ol>
<li>Cal-Berkeley</li>
<li>UCLA</li>
<li>Michigan</li>
<li>Virginia</li>
<li>UNC</li>
<li>WIlliam & Mary</li>
<li>Illinois</li>
<li>UC-San Diego</li>
<li>UT-Austin</li>
<li>Wisconsin</li>
<li>Florida</li>
<li>Washington-Seattle</li>
<li>Maryland</li>
<li>Georgia</li>
<li>G-Tech</li>
</ol>

<p>lulu- what did they try to point out in arguing they were as good as the "other top schools"</p>

<p>they showed us a slide show and in which one slide was SUNY bing placed in a list with WM and wisconsin and other top schools. with a picture of the princton review logo next to it. He talekd about how they are nationally ranked among those schools, while always being the top SUNY. Im interseted in what others think about SUNY bing amongst the other privates, because the admission peoples views are quite biased.</p>

<p>berkeley, MADISON, michigan, ucla, uva, austin</p>

<p>why does everyone keep ranking madison so low??? i was just accepted and think i'm going to have a really hard time choosing between madison and my other schools (all the rest are private).</p>

<p>ucsb is a good school...but it is not on par with ucla, berkeley, madison, etc...a lot of the typical california surfer stereotype holds true there (former boyfriend goes there)....it's still a really good public school...it's just that there are better ones. a lot of the student housing is right on the beach. the whole university of california system is just really incredible in general</p>

<p>in response to Transfer...</p>

<p>Michigan and Madison are very similar in their undergraduate experiences. Both are huge (in terms of # of students) and located are in complete college towns that offer little escape. madison definitely has more of a party reputation...and the whole badger football thing is such a huge part of your experience. michigan students love their football team too of course, but i think everything is just more intense at madison (more school spirit, more partying, bigger/better college town)</p>

<p>academically, i would say that they are on par until you look at individual departments, etc....like madison is better for politics/poli sci...but michigan is better for your actual law degree. additionally, michigan has a better undergrad business program (at one point, tied with berkeley i believe for 2nd place)</p>

<p>hopes this helps</p>