BJU... *** kind of place is this??

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You do not mean the Harding Graduate School of Religion?

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<p>I'm talking about Harding University in Searcy, Arkansas...I think that's the same place you're talking about. </p>

<p>Here's the link to the rules: <a href="http://www.harding.edu/PDF/Residence_Life.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.harding.edu/PDF/Residence_Life.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>greendayfan, that was my point, no one is kidnapping and sending the kids there, but there are much more subtle ways of 'forcing" someone to do something</p>

<p>I have read alot about this school, and some of the writings of the kids who went there....sure, some LOVE it, but many found it oppresive, but stuck with it because, guess what, very very few of their courses would transfer anywhere, so they would be starting over at another school....so some just stuck it out because their parents had already invested $$ and would not at another school....so choice, not so much, some figuring a bad college was better than none</p>

<p>and remember, many of these kids were brought up to fear the "world" ...and most of what is in it,and to fear each other, because the school encourages ratting out other classmates, if you do, you get bonus points or some such thing...</p>

<p>If you have no access to TV, radio, newspapers, can't leave campus alone, can't use the internet and are told, can't go to that beach, because dangerous people are there, and the threat is expulsion, and perhaps a family that says this or nothing...well...how would YOU feel</p>

<p>They're psychotic enough, lol.</p>

<p>ariesathena , you're totally right. I would NEVER want to meet one of these people, let alone converse with them. They are brainwashed and intolerent. You don't honestly believe that someone who voluntarily goes to these types of schools would accept another life style besides theirs? Lol, whoever said that they lost a friend because their parents said she was the anti-christ....lol. I love how Christians blow their religion out of context. I don't believe that Jesus said to condemn all those that didn't believe, in fact, I believe his mission was to save them...</p>

<p>Um, Blink, actually, by close-minded, I meant people who say, "I would NEVER want to meet one of these people, let alone converse with them."</p>

<p>Many of my close friends from law school are very conservative Christians or Mormons. They have not been taught that the world is "scary" or oppressive or that men and women cannot co-exist; it's just that they choose to not drink, engage in casual sex, dress provactively, hang around people who do drugs, or the like. I'm an atheist from New England, but they manage to hang around me without too much trouble. ;) </p>

<p>I just can't see anything wrong with wanting to live your life in an upstanding manner, nor can I see anything wrong with parents teaching their kids right from wrong. I also see nothing wrong with people who want to go to school in an environment that is not steeped in illegal drugs and illicit sex.</p>

<p>^There's a difference between that, and Bob Jones University and PCC.</p>

<p>Well, mostly PCC. </p>

<p>Eye babies? Hand holding? Women need chaperones, but not men? No contemporary Christian music?</p>

<p>These kind of things aren't fostering upstanding, moral behavior. More like an occult following...</p>

<p>I have several conservative Christian friends myself; I think Blink is talking about not wanting to converse with FUNDAMENTALISTS, much like you'd rather not converse with a Muslim terrorist. Although that would be interesting. Just only to a point.</p>

<p>Blink,
What about yeshiva students? They are not Christian but I am pretty sure there is no intermingling of the sexes in school or out of school.</p>

<p>BJU doesn't allow interracial dating. How sweet.</p>

<p>yeshiva is different because of how there is thousands of years worth of tradition behind that concept. I hope no one snarks on yeshiva, because that is actually a holy form of higher education in the most sacred sense of the word. </p>

<p>Bl** J*b University is a crock of doo doo.</p>

<p>Pretty sick :)
I'm by myself am a christian (and no, not because my parents are) but I don't think point of christianity is in prohibiting to shake hands with people of opposite sex. I'm also against teaching religion and school and wouldn't go to any sort of Christian college -- I don't think people can make christianity be assessed through methods of classical education.</p>

<p>"I'm talking about Harding University in Searcy, Arkansas...I think that's the same place you're talking about."</p>

<p>Oh golly. I am soo happy I looked this up. There is a Harding Graduate School of Religion where I live in Memphis, Tn. I just finished reading their catalogue and they have none of those weird rules. Oh, thank goodness. </p>

<p>I sure as shucks could never think of wearing a blessed skirt and all of that nonsense for two years. LAWD no. </p>

<p>I was thinking it would be hard for the Harding Graduate School of Religion to have far out rules in a city which has a bar around the corner from most every church:) I mean, it is not possible.</p>

<p>Just as other religions have religious schools, please remember the Pentecostals ordain many ministers from these schools as well. Christianity is "only" 2000+ years old, but that doesn't invalidate the importance of these schools for their followers. Talk about a double standard...</p>

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Many of my close friends from law school are very conservative Christians or Mormons. They have not been taught that the world is "scary" or oppressive or that men and women cannot co-exist; it's just that they choose to not drink, engage in casual sex, dress provactively, hang around people who do drugs, or the like. I'm an atheist from New England, but they manage to hang around me without too much trouble.

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<p>I've always liked my Mormon friends better. None of them have ever outright tried to convert me or get me to go to their church (they're big on the missions, but all that I've known have been very respectful and great friends). I really appreciate that from them.</p>

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I think Blink is talking about not wanting to converse with FUNDAMENTALISTS, much like you'd rather not converse with a Muslim terrorist. Although that would be interesting. Just only to a point.

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Well, yeah, Muslim terrorists would try to kill me and Fundamentalist Christians would want me to lead a happy, spiritually fulfilling, meaningful life. OBVIOUSLY one and the same.</p>

<p>There are some pretty dangerous Christian extremists as well. You can't just nudge the crazies under the rug, you know.</p>

<p>extremism on either end of the spectrum is dangerous</p>

<p>I am not asking this rhetorically but seriously... can you please tell me what Christian "extremists" have done recently? As in, specifically, Liberty, Regents, Bob Jones students or alums, the subject of this discussion.</p>

<p>Muslim extremists: flown planes into buildings; plotted to blow up the Brooklyn Bridge; liquid explosives plot; trains in Madrid; the Taliban.</p>

<p>Atheists: 100 million dead in gulags during the Communist era. (Three cheers for godlessness.)</p>

<p>Depending on whether you consider Iraq to be more of a secular or Muslim area: rape rooms, mass graves, kids in prisons. </p>

<p>And Liberty or BYU or Bob Jones students are dangerous because...??? I mean, the Crusades happened, but that was, oh, eight hundred years ago. Not exactly 9/11. A little intellectual honesty, here. Reciting cliches does not truth make.</p>

<p>You can't assume every Atheist is a Communist. </p>

<p>BJU doesn't allow interracial dating. KKK, anyone?</p>

<p>Enn: You also can't assume every muslim is a terrorist. You can, however, assume that MOST of the communists who carried out the gulag stuff were atheists, at least officially. The USSR was not very keen on religion.</p>

<p>ariesathena: This isn't that specific, but Hitler was a Christian extremist. He was not the same kind of "extremist" (not necessarily my terminology) that we see today at places like BJU--and I'm NOT comparing him to them--but he was a Christian extremist.</p>

<p>And BJU, if I remember correctly, currently DOES allow interracial dating. According to Wikipedia, the ban was lifted after the controversy surrounding Bush's visit.</p>

<p>extremisim is ofte incisdious...chipping away at freedoms, and there are those that want to chip away at my freedoms- choice, school, education</p>

<p>if you want to talk about anything, look at what christian extremist are trying to do to science...lntelligent design. global warming, how old the planet is and tryig to put that in public education</p>

<p>it starts on a base level...if you work at what kids are taught, then a coupld things can happen...they have misinformation and take that into the politica world, or they kearn the truth and take that mistrust of education into the world</p>

<p>they are trying in Kansas, and if people hadn't stood up to the extremeist, well, that would have been very sad</p>