I did not know it would hurt so bad

<p>Student615, I don’t think his comments have been misinterpreted. You have missed most of them, I’m guessing, if you feel that way. Of course, many of the more over-the-top posts he;s made (and replies) have since been removed, which is wise of the mods, because the D can surely be identified by now. DadII can’t seem to control himself, but at least the CC mods are trying to look out for her.</p>

<p>I agree, Starbright. And whoever posted something about DadII being a mirror or magnifying glass to our feelings couldn’t be more wrong from my perspective. I have absolutely nothing in common with him or his views, but it’s a fun thread to follow. I have been sucked into the whirlpool…don’t whirlpools always lead down?</p>

<p>O.K. Might as well say it. Before I blow up. </p>

<p>If you want to be sympathetic to somebody in all this (other than the D who we are all mentally foster parenting ;)) how about a little love for the ten’s of kids trying their damnedest to get into OSU Honor’s or even OSU itself with a scholarship that makes it possible to attend? And don’t fool yourself for a second that OSU applicants have missed this thread. They haven’t. (They use the search function.)</p>

<p>I’ve been around here a long time. Too long probably. And I defy any of you to find where I have ever dissed ANY school as not good enough, or said ANY school was not up to my D’s standards like the OP has here. (Well, other than UT-Austin and they still suck, but I love Plan II.;)) </p>

<p>I know you won’t find one because I don’t feel that way about any college or university likely to be mentioned on this site as a potential destination . (Well, other than UT-Austin and they still suck, but I love Plan II.;)) </p>

<p>If your kid can get into Truman State or Morehead State or Harvard or Caltech or Emory or Valdosta State College or Millsaps or Texas Tech and

  1. that’s a place she can see herself living for 4 years
  2. it’ll take her where she wants to go
  3. y’all can afford it </p>

<p>then that’s a fine college for your D. Period. </p>

<p>It is very impolite to come on here and start talking “not good enough for my D” trash about an Honor’s College/Program at a Top 100 research school with many proud graduates - my wife’s boss for one. Her cousin for another. And they are the type that will buy the T-shirts.</p>

<p>As always, JMO (just my opinion)</p>

<p>This is turning ugly. people are mis-interpreting my words. </p>

<p>This started out over at the state U thread. I said the reduction of NMF from T+ to T only makes it less attractive. Then in one of early thread, I said w/o merit $$ and the cost of 24K, I would rather pay 28K for Harvard (if she gets in). how could you take that to mean “not good enough”? </p>

<p>We already paid the fee to hold spot at state U.</p>

<p>This Thread Needs To End . . . Now</p>

<p>Well then how about apologizing to this year’s applicants to OSU? It would be a nice start at making amends.</p>

<p>DadII, do you not remember saying you would pay zero? And that you had $125K in the bank for college? You sounded pretty dead-set to me. I’d have been cringing at that backhand.</p>

<p>OSU as in THE FOOTBALL OHIO STATE?</p>

<p>The saying “one child’s trash is another’s treasure” would be very apt for this discussion.</p>

<p>Son #1, football player since age 8 wanted to play for OSU. He practiced, and practiced and worked out and trained and spent 12 long years wanting OSU. </p>

<p>His dream for OSU didn’t work out. He’s somewhere else having his butt kicked everyday just NOT playing football!</p>

<p>Now his brother, the not quite as good ball player is PLAYING football although it was not initially on his to “do in college” list.</p>

<p>Son #1 wanted to play ball but what he REALLY wanted was a specific career that did not include his sport and he found another way to pursue it. He was able to discover this because his rejection from OSU (football) forced him to really concentrate on what he truly wanted.</p>

<p>The journey or pursuit of one of his dreams helped to focus and PRIORITIZE for him and he landed where he is now, getting his BUTT kicked EVERY single day!! </p>

<p>Dad II- may your daughter find what she wishes for and you find what you need.</p>

<p>Fair winds and following seas.</p>

<p>Kat</p>

<p>I have said this before in another situation and I will say it again - we are not anonymous on these boards. I know I recognized a couple of my daughter’s classmates parents on CC. It isn’t too hard to tell - general idea of stats, where they apply to school, scholarships, etc. I know I have tried to be discrete about daughter’s info so that she or I can’t be identified, but if I don’t know if I have been effective. Y’know, we caution our kids about what they put online and then we post all sorts of stuff about THEM. </p>

<p>We all need to be more cautious. I would really resent it if my mom were talking about my private life (and school info is private) to a bunch of strangers in a public forum. </p>

<p>JMO</p>

<p>Note : As to my post #163 DadII never said the words I had in quotes. I wasn’t trying to quote him, but it could leave that impression.</p>

<p>Goodness, anyone who’s read your ‘I feel bad, realy realy bad’ post (might be edited now to keep sanity on the boards, haha) will not have misinterpreted your words. You’ve said time and time again in that thread that you refuse to pay a cent for Ohio State. It’s obviously not good enough for you. Anytime I think you might be a decent person, I remember the computer plug pulling episode on your daughter’s scholarship application (which she may have been extremely qualified for, but now you’ll miss out on some monetary aid at some college. Ah the irony.) and the berating your daughter because you guys have different priorities of academics VS extracurriculars. </p>

<p>Lol at the shirts. Really, that’s hilarious.</p>

<p>Curmudgeon, StickerShock –</p>

<p>Understood. Didn’t mean to appear particularly sympathetic to or defensive of anyone, especially knowing how much back-story I lack. I’m not about to take any “side” in this saga (beyond the CC-wide “Daughter II cheering squad”). What sparked my worry was simply the t-shirt anecdote…not only the fact that that sort of thing could ‘slop over’ (handy phrase) on to the daughter, but also how upsetting (and potentially destructive) it could be to read, from her perspective. The story may have been well worth mentioning, but I think it should serve as a reminder to the rest of us, and not only to Dad II, that there may be real repercussions to what’s said here, so we should try to remain conscious of the fact. Just a (largely preemptive) sort of plea. Sorry for anything else I may have implied.</p>

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<p>Yes, Mythmom, one of the reasons people continue to read the Adventures of DadII is that they secretly hope that some day he might start LISTENING and paying attention to the voluminous heaps of advice he has received. Despite a few hints of improvements, that day has not come yet. </p>

<p>Yes, there are reasons to continue to hold his hand, but DadII is like that little 2 years old cousin one has to take to the mall and keep his or her hand. The whole time the little devil is kicking and screaming and trying to bite your hand to get free. When success come, he jumps on a bench and wants more attention. </p>

<p>No, DadII does NOT represents MANY of us; he represents the small contingent of parents whose erroneous take on admissions has been … stereotyped. He is like his friends who populated those Asian bragfest websites. He is like his friends and relatives who equate scholastic successes with trophy hunting. That is NOT what most CC parents do. Quite the opposite in fact! </p>

<p>Every year we do have a special character at CC, and he is the one this year. If CC can be the P.T. Barnum of admissions, he is the main attraction because of his idiosyncracies and amazing continuous misconceptions. </p>

<p>We read his posts in DISBELIEF but we still cling to a weak notion of HOPE. Hope he’ll realize how wrong he has been and still is. And that is because, in a strange way, we do deeply care for him and his family.</p>

<p>In a way, reading Dad II’s posts over a couple of threads remind me a little of Andi’s son’s trainwreck admissions story a few years ago, before his gap year’s successful outcome. For those who are not old timers, her son applied only to tip-top universities [HYP etc] and, even though he was by all measures a truly outstanding applicant, did not get in anywhere. This is the lesson that so many parents have been trying to teach DADII- be grateful for any acceptances that come your D’s way. Things can go “wrong” in the admissions process, for reasons that are at best ,unfathonable.</p>

<p>Nope, not a mirror for me. I can’t take reading the posts anymore. As I have said before, as a D I know EXACTLY what he is saying, as I had a parent who felt the same way. Still does. Not much is good enough. To the ignore list you go. Handy little feature on the board.</p>

<p>I don’t think it’s fair to compare Dad II saga to AndiSon one.</p>

<p>Andi was EXTREMELY gracious, humble and attentive throughout. Her attitude was very very different from that of Dad II despite much more dire and stressful situation. </p>

<p>Yes, her son’s list was risky (NOT all HYP-type though), and as a result he had no place to go. But he ended up at MIT - just a prove that his high aspirations were not at all unreasonable, he just had some very bad luck.</p>

<p>Or very good luck at the end.</p>

<p>nngmm,
I was in no way comparing Andi to DaDII- sorry if I muffled the post. I only meant that even the best of applicants can have unfortunate outcomes, or “bad luck” as you put it- hence all the posts to DAD II trying to get him to realize that an acceptance at OSU is not such a “bad” thing.</p>

<p>@ xiggi:</p>

<p>Well, he got into many schools on the second round, some of them quite prestigious. And his profile was very impressive from the start, so I think it was more of a bad luck on the first round.</p>

<p>To say that DadII mirrors some parental emotions is not to say that he is representing all parents, or some parents, or the parents who’ve shown some understanding of his emotions. I would agree with sunnyflorida that he does not mirror ME, as a person or as a parent. But I admit that he voices emotions that I have felt, but kept to myself. </p>

<p>I would have thought that Parents Forum was the place for a parent to bring his questions and concerns — however misinformed and “stereotypical” they may be. I kind of thought the whole idea of the open forum was to allow someone to post as often as they like, and bring up whatever matters they want to bring up and the respondents would engage in discussion — a give and take. Or they could turn away and not respond at all if they didn’t want to participate. </p>

<p>If the Parent’s Forum, and other CC discussion forums, are supposed to be off limits to certain personality types, maybe that should be stated up front.
Perhaps there ought to be a screening process in place — overly emotional, unacceptable parental types will have their posts sanitized and “normalized” BEFORE they are offered up for discussion.</p>