<p>Well if thats what they like, then good for them. I just can't imagine having such little tolerence for those who aren't so strict. I can't even believe they wouldn't allow interracial dating until a few years ago (I'm sure they still dont' approve of it, they probably just didn't want the bad rep). It is an EXTREMELY narrow way of thinking, and that is what leads to biggotry and ignorance.</p>
<p>I agree with Elitism about the reason why these kids go to these schools. I have gone to Christian school from kindergarten to 8th grade. I have heard about this "calling" all my life, and I agree that God has a plan for each of us. i think some people are called to continue their education in christian colleges. I don't know if I necessarily agree that God is calling them to go to this school to become pastors that preach fire and brimstone sermons because i don't think those are actually effective (Jesus never preached a sermon like that). Didn't Jesus preach that people will know if you are a Christian by the "fruit" you bear? I personally think that the best testimony is to live your life in such a way that other people will realize that there is something different in your life and want to be like you. I don't think that people should become Christians in order to use it as a "get out of jail free card." The part that I disagree with Elitism is the last part of his original post. He made it sound like everyone who goes to PCC of BJU is going to go to heaven for sure and everyone who wants to go to a different school or have a different career is going to go to hell. </p>
<p>I don't think it is that bad that they aren't allowed to wear abercrombie or hollister. Maybe they are just smarter than most people. They don't want their kids spending so much money to look like a mess.</p>
<p>Can't we all agree that we are brainwashed in some way? Maybe we don't want to consider ourselves brainwashed but I can easily see all the different influences in my life and where my way of though comes from.</p>
<p>Harvard University</p>
<p>Elitism, the one thing I will point out is that you do not need to go to a Christian school in order to live a meaningful, Christian life.</p>
<p>In fact, just to add to that, if you need to attend a Christian college in order to be strong in your faith, you weren't very strong to begin with.</p>
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<p>Another thing I will point out is that you don't have to be Christian (or any major religion for that matter) to have a meaningful life.</p>
<p>But, if the people going to BJU want to believe in all of it and like it there then that is their choice just like not believing in it is your choice.</p>
<p>It may be so. But BJU is extremely intolerant of many things clearly. That I believe is sort of "brainwashing" the students for they don't have any opportunities to see the other side.</p>
<p>"It may be so. But BJU is extremely intolerant of many things clearly. That I believe is sort of "brainwashing" the students for they don't have any opportunities to see the other side."</p>
<p>That's why they go there. Tolerance is all ******** to begin with. You're telling me I gotta give at a gay guy the same respect I give a straight guy? **** that. PM me if you want to get into a discussion about that. </p>
<p>Anyways, the students that go there know what they're doing is right for them. I agree with some of you, those places are too strict, that's one of the reasons I won't be going there. But the students there would rather have strict rules than go to a school that teaches the exact opposite of what they believe.</p>
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<p>That is absolutely insane, Elitist. Why not give a gay guy the same respect as a straight guy? WHY NOT? I don't understand this. They're people made of the same stuff as the rest of us. So they go for their own sex - just let them be. </p>
<p>Yeah, PCC and BJU are the worst of the worst. I didn't even think BJU was real for a long time since it sounds so dreadful. </p>
<p>I'd rather die and stand infront of god saying "Well, at least I enjoyed life, didn't kill anyone, and treated everyone equally. Now, if you excuse me, hell awaits" than live my life like a loaf of sun-dried bread.</p>
<p>Bju Praise Da Lordd!</p>
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That is absolutely insane, Elitist. Why not give a gay guy the same respect as a straight guy? WHY NOT? I don't understand this. They're people made of the same stuff as the rest of us. So they go for their own sex - just let them be.
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<p>While I think his position is silly, he does make a valid point about modern society. We are tolerance of everything except people who are not tolerant. It forms an interesting paradox.</p>
<p>Is that type of language an indicator of a good Christian? Just curious.</p>
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<p>It is not paradoxical; if the interests of those who are intolerant violate the autonomy of those who are, then tolerant individuals have legitimate claims on them.</p>
<p>I consider myself a christian and I pray that i will never talk like that.</p>
<p>Elitism, go to studentsreview.com PCC students and alum DON'T like PCC. These are college students, they don't like being treated by children. And that's what PCC does, they treat their students like children. They spy on them, they encourage other students to rat out fellow students for such forbidden acts as <em>kissing</em>. They discourage dissident reviews within the Christian faith, even ones 100% based in scripture such as Calvinism. They basically teach you how not to think for yourself.</p>
<p>Being a part of the real world is something that everyone has to do at one point or another. the best Christians aren't the ones who go to air conditioned U.S. churches every sunday and sip coffee while listening to a regurgitated speech highlighted by someone making a pun about what the word "therefore" is there for in Paul's writings. They're the ones who are standing up for their faith and brining new believers to Christ. Remember, Christ says that lukewarm Christians are the ones he wants to spit out, not the hot or the cold. </p>
<p>The brainwashing that goes on there (and you seem to be a prime example of it) is second to none. Look at this Noam Chomsky quote for a minute:</p>
<p>"The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum - even encourage the more critical and dissident views. That gives people the sense that there's free thinking going on, while all the time the presuppositions of the system are being reinforced by the limits put on the range of the debate."</p>
<p>The way you talk is 100% befitting of your name. I've gone to a southern baptist school since kindergarten, and I'm apalled by extremists like you and the PCC administration.</p>
<p>Elitism, I just want to know, do you think that the Book of Leviticus is supposed to be taken literally? Or should we be more tolerant than Leviticus was?</p>
<p>BJU is the WoRST college in the US by far. Ewww Christian fundamentalist make me uncomfortable.</p>
<p>current lawsuit in california where christian schools are suing the university of california for discrimination against them, including the usage of textbooks published by bob jones university press and A Beka Book (affiliated with pensacola christian college, although not mentioned in the article).</p>
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<p>full article:<a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-ucsuit19dec19,0,1427957.story?page=2&coll=la-home-headlines%5B/url%5D">http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-ucsuit19dec19,0,1427957.story?page=2&coll=la-home-headlines</a></p>
<p>Yeaa good for the UC! Christian schools need to teach real science courses. I go to Catholic school. We take religion, but we also take the standard science courses..we are taught evolution, etc. And honestly BJU Press they use? Whoa thats messed up that school scares me.</p>
<p>What's sad is that the Christian schools will probably win... :(
Elitism, NOT brainwashing???
Definition of brainwashing:
1. Intensive, forcible indoctrination, usually political or religious, aimed at destroying a person's basic convictions and attitudes and replacing them with an alternative set of fixed beliefs.
2. The application of a concentrated means of persuasion, such as an advertising campaign or repeated suggestion, in order to develop a specific belief or motivation.
Hmm, lets analyze this:
Intensive: Yes- they have to go through their everyday lives with the rules of which themselves are extremely intense.
Forcible: People get expelled/severly punished if they don't follow the rules
Religious: That is self-explainable
Fixed Beliefs: The rules are as concrete as concrete and they are being forced unto each and every poor soul that attends those colleges
Repeated Suggestion: Again, they have to go through their everyday lives with the rules
Specific Belief: Self-explainable</p>
<p>Elitism, the reason as to why they would choose BJU or Pens. over any Ivy is because those kids will never get into any Ivy if they wanted to. Secondly what kind of institution would want such a shallow minded person that is the result of super conservative christianity?</p>